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Old 06-28-2011, 07:17 AM
 
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on one hand, Penn State wouldn't want to "legitimize" its smaller rivals by treating them as equals.

on the other hand, Maryland and New Jersey are two of the best states for recruiting in the northeast, by far. I'm not sure if the extra exposure would benefit Penn State or not.
PSU already does very well in NJ (in fact the fan base in Jersey is likely as much or more PSU fans as it is Rutgers). PSU also has a fairly large fan base in the NYC area as well. In MD it does ok recruiting not as well as NJ and actually probably does better in VA (especially recentyly getting some good talent from the Norfolk area) when compared to MD. For players PSU needs to do a better job in PA (still does better than other schools) but loses to many players to Ohio State and the net PA/OH recruiting seems to err in the OSU favor - even if PSU does steal some top OH players. PA and Ohio for that matter are better than NJ and MD combined typically. Oddly in the Philly area Nebraska and Wisconsin will at times pluck players from PSU

The most natural rivals were always Pitt and WVU for PSU. And I believe the MD campus is at least as close if not closer than would be Rutgers actually. DC and Baltimore are both closer to Happy Valley than are Philly or NYC but PSU is definately the team in Philly (Temple gets little traction and it is a shame especially as they were getting some momentum before their coach left for Miami; hope better things for that program but PSU reigns supreme in Philly even with Temple only blocks from city hall)

But in many ways you are right in that PSU should be the dominant recruiter in the NE overall. By far the biggest program and by far the widest and largest fan base. PSU is actually shown to have the largest regional fan base in D1 (probably due to the NE population)

Fan Popularity index
http://www.commoncensus.org/teams.php?sport=5

Mapped Popularity Index
http://www.commoncensus.org/sports_map.php?sport=5

Though take these data with a grain of salt

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Old 06-28-2011, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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USC-UCLA. USC is the dominant team but the games sell out at either the Mammoth Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum or the Rose Bowl. It's nice when both teams wear their home jerseys too, UCLA light blue and USC dark red as there is enough of a contrast between jerseys to play.
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Old 06-28-2011, 08:01 AM
 
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PSU already does very well in NJ (in fact the fan base in Jersey is likely as much or more PSU fans as it is Rutgers). PSU also has a fairly large fan base in the NYC area as well. In MD it does ok recruiting not as well as NJ and actually probably does better in VA (especially recentyly getting some good talent from the Norfolk area) when compared to MD. For players PSU needs to do a better job in PA (still does better than other schools) but loses to many players to Ohio State and the net PA/OH recruiting seems to err in the OSU favor - even if PSU does steal some top OH players. PA and Ohio for that matter are better than NJ and MD combined typically. Oddly in the Philly area Nebraska and Wisconsin will at times pluck players from PSU
http://www.mapgameday.com/recruitquery.php
for what it is worth -- in 2009 the # of BCS-level recruits for the 4 states were:

Ohio - 79
Pennsylvania - 42
Maryland - 40
NJ - 36
Virginia - 32
Michigan - 20
New England (VT, NH, MA, ME, RI combined) - 18
NY - 17
West Virginia - 2


so i guess this explains why Penn State is more concerned with Ohio, than the other states. Playing West Virginia, on the other hand, is basically worthless from a recruiting standpoint.
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