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Old 11-20-2011, 06:51 PM
 
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Even though its only the AP Poll, how does a Okie State lose to an unranked team and only fall 3 places?
Lot of upsets Fri-Sat.

 
Old 11-20-2011, 06:54 PM
 
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NCAA College Football BCS Standings Week 13 - ESPN

here's it in electronic stone. No real surprises in the top 5.
 
Old 11-20-2011, 07:56 PM
 
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RIP Garrett Uekman: Arkansas tight end dead of unknown causes - Dr. Saturday - NCAAF*Blog - Yahoo! Sports
 
Old 11-20-2011, 08:18 PM
 
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lol, Auburn, Florida, Kentucky, Miss. St, Ole Miss, Tennessee, & Vandy says hi.

sec! sec! sec!
Yeah, and in that list, you have two schools that have won three out of the past five national championships. They might be having down years, but it's not like they're patsy wins.
 
Old 11-20-2011, 08:33 PM
 
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Just because Florida schedules FSU every year doesn't mean they shouldn't schedule another decent team instead of the crap they schedule... Florida Atlantic 0-10, UAB 3-8, and FCS Furman (who UF struggled in). Oh so strong... We (FSU), on the other hand, schedule Florida every year but you know who else we schedule... Oklahoma, BYU, Alabama, USF, etc. You see it isn't hard...
You have to remember that it takes two teams to schedule. How many teams were looking forward to putting an Urban Meyer-coached Florida team on their schedule? Obviously things might be changing in light of Florida's collapse this season, but there are other factors that have to be considered when critiquing the scheduling.

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Clemson beat Auburn (SEC Loss). Boise St beat Georgia (SEC Loss). TAMU (6-5 team) required Arkansas to make up 18 points in the second half (SEC Escape). Then we have this weekend with all the teams struggling against terrible teams.
Clemson was considered the best team in their conference until this week, whereas Auburn has fallen way off their performance from last season. It's not like Clemson blew them out of the water either. It took them about three full quarters to get out in front for good. Now, compare the Clemson score to Auburn's games against stronger SEC teams.


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I ask you...
If Alabama had trouble with FCS Georgia Southern's option scheme, how would they far against a team with quicker/better athletes who run a similiar option i.e. Georgia Tech? We will see how Georgia fares against them next weekend.
They did play Arkansas, which is an explosive team offensively. And they beat them pretty easily, 38-14. Look, I know you're clutching on to the Georgia Southern game (which they won by four scores, btw), but it's a lackluster performance against a team that didn't inspire them. It happens.

A case in point is the Oregon-USC game. Oregon fell behind 38-14 against USC. Everyone knew that wasn't the real Oregon team, and that the Ducks would make it closer in the second half, which they did.

Another case in point is OU-Texas Tech. I think most of us agree that OU would probably take care of business if they met a second time. OU just got caught looking ahead. It happens. It can happen on any given week.

One slow start doesn't negate an entire season's worth of work.
 
Old 11-20-2011, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Fort Mill, SC
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They did play Arkansas, which is an explosive team offensively. And they beat them pretty easily, 38-14. Look, I know you're clutching on to the Georgia Southern game (which they won by four scores, btw), but it's a lackluster performance against a team that didn't inspire them. It happens.
Arkansas doesn't run the flexbone triple option either. Arkansas is just pass friendly pro system. No need for guessing when you either hand off the run (QB isn't going anywhere) or you pull back in the pocket and look down field; unlike the triple option when a team could run with either the QB or one of those runningbacks or pitch to a WR or heck pull back and throw. If you guess wrong, a big play happens. The SEC doesn't run anything like that. The closest thing was Urban Meyer's spread which failed when Tebow/Harvin/Mullen left and look what it did. They led the SEC for that time period when they were all there.

I leave it like this...
Remember it wasn't that long ago that a Utah spread/option team took down a strong Bama defense.

How the hell is OK State #4 in BCS... Iowa State is terrible. They should have dropped even further.
 
Old 11-20-2011, 09:43 PM
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Even though its only the AP Poll, how does a Okie State lose to an unranked team and only fall 3 places?
Losing to an unranked team like that....they should've dropped out of the top 10...what a shame...one of the reasons why the BCS has issues...at least the Sooners lost to Baylor(ranked 20) and Oregon lost to USC(ranked 18 in AP due to probation)
 
Old 11-20-2011, 09:50 PM
 
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Losing to an unranked team like that....they should've dropped out of the top 10...what a shame...one of the reasons why the BCS has issues...at least the Sooners lost to Baylor(ranked 20) and Oregon lost to USC(ranked 18 in AP due to probation)
But it's one loss. The point of the BCS computerized rankings is that it is supposed to be objective. One loss, however embarrassing that one loss might be, cannot equal two losses. I agree with that aspect of the BCS. In fact, having computerized rankings is a pretty good idea. The problem that it comes down to just two teams, which is patently unfair to the five or six other teams that get left out of the title hunt that otherwise would have a shot if there were a rational alternative in place.
 
Old 11-20-2011, 09:58 PM
 
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Arkansas doesn't run the flexbone triple option either.
Two years ago, in Jordan Jefferson's first bowl game, I remember a lot of people were blathering away about how Georgia Tech ran the triple option and that it was supposed to be one of the most difficult defenses to play. LSU went out and curb stomped them right in front of their home fans, and right in the Georgia Dome, no less. They were up 38-3 by the time the 4th quarter began. If they had kept their foot on the gas, it probably could have been 58-3.

LSU and Auburn were also supposed to have nightmares about Oregon's vaunted offense which has regularly posted 40-45 points a game over the past three seasons. Auburn held them to 16 points; LSU held them to 20 before giving up a free score in the closing seconds. As much as I hate to admit it, Alabama, may I remind you, probably would have - and should have - been the one team to defeat LSU...were it not for its sorry kicking game. Alabama is the one team LSU does not want to face again. Anyone else? LSU probably can't wait. LSU would probably not rather face Oregon again, but they're confident that they could beat them a second time if necessary.

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Arkansas is just pass friendly pro system. No need for guessing when you either hand off the run (QB isn't going anywhere) or you pull back in the pocket and look down field; unlike the triple option when a team could run with either the QB or one of those runningbacks or pitch to a WR or heck pull back and throw. If you guess wrong, a big play happens. The SEC doesn't run anything like that.
SEC teams don't make excuses for losing BCS games...because they just don't lose them in the first place.
 
Old 11-20-2011, 09:59 PM
 
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