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Old 08-14-2011, 02:58 PM
 
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do the Yankees and red sox play once every three years?

how about Giants / Dodgers?

heck, even the Tigers get to play the Yankees every year.

I don't understand the point of these ''conferences"

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and the Big 10 was thinking of Rutgers or Syracuse b/c it would bring in the NJ/NY t.v. market
You're comparing baseball to college football?? In the MLB, NBA, and NHL, everybody plays everybody...

More comparable would be the NFL, where the AFC and the NFC (in effect, 16 team conferences) don't play every team in their conference every season.

Football is a different animal, and uncomparable to baseball, basketball, or hockey. Fewer games, and more importance emphasized on each individual game.

As for the "point" of the conferences...they are a historical creation, going back more than 100 years in some cases. Conferences are effectively team co-ops where they organize scheduling, TV deals, and bowl tie-ins. The long history of some of these conferences is the reason why some of these rivalries even exist.

I don't think discussing the merits of why conferences exist is really pertinent to the topic of conference expansion. Conferences are what they are...and are definitely a fixture in today's college sports landscape. Discussing whether not they should exist or are necessary is a completely different argument whatsoever.
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Old 08-14-2011, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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If the other courted colleges, not named UT, had the balls last summer, the Pac-10 would have happily dismantled the Big 12 with no remorse.

I like the conferences the way they stand, and only want the Pac-10 to expand into Texas so I can actually go to a Duck game every once and a while.
Actually, if A&M didn't object to going to the pac 10 last year, it would've happened.
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Old 08-14-2011, 05:56 PM
 
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Old 08-14-2011, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Fort Mill, SC
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Statement From Dr. Bernie Machen > SEC > NEWS


Again, it appears that these rumors that A&M has an "offer" from the SEC appear to be false. Looks like the Aggies are the ones who have been pushing this all along...not the SEC. Of course, this doesn't guarantee that A&M won't be a future member of the SEC...but it should put these rumors to rest that the SEC is definitely expanding (and to 16 teams?). The Aggies are aggressively courting the SEC, not the other way around.
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Old 08-16-2011, 04:49 AM
 
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i don't think it is that simple, and this probably isn't over. What I read indicated the SEC is waiting for Texas A&M to finish it's "divorce", and is working with FSU, Missouri, VaTech, Clemson, GaTech, Louisville, etc., to see who else is willing to join.

i've seen a lot of bold claims. for example: "USC fans would never let Clemson into the SEC." As a USC fan I do not think this is true. Clemson and FSU joining the SEC would open up an OOC spot in scheduling every year for USC and UF, which is a big deal if you play in the SEC. UF and USC fans would love to see their rivals play an SEC schedule that includes LSU, Alabama, Tennessee, Georgia, etc., instead of the current ACC cupcake ride. In my mind it's more of a question of whether or not Clemson and FSU want to join the shark-infested waters of the SEC. This seems more likely for Clemson than for FSU.

I know I'd love to see A&M join the SEC. They have a ton of money, great tradition, they're big in big markets, and they fit in culturally with the SEC.

I also just realized that if you don't know your acronyms, this post probably looks like gibberish.

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Old 08-16-2011, 04:56 AM
 
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do the Yankees and red sox play once every three years?

how about Giants / Dodgers?

heck, even the Tigers get to play the Yankees every year.

I don't understand the point of these ''conferences"

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and the Big 10 was thinking of Rutgers or Syracuse b/c it would bring in the NJ/NY t.v. market
Conferences exist for the benefit of the schools. It's a lot like medieval european government, lots of little feuding territories. As you can see with the big 12 - Texas A&M - Texas situation, the conferences themselves have very little control.

you're also comparing it to major league baseball, which has what, 162 games per year?
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Old 08-16-2011, 08:16 AM
 
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i've seen a lot of bold claims. for example: "USC fans would never let Clemson into the SEC." As a USC fan I do not think this is true.
A big selling point is you can play in the best conference in college football. If a state rival got into the same conference, this is no longer a selling point. UF blocked FSU for 30+ years when FSU wanted to be part of the SEC, prior to signing to ACC.

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Clemson and FSU joining the SEC would open up an OOC spot in scheduling every year for USC and UF, which is a big deal if you play in the SEC.
Actually, it most likely wouldn't. State government mandates these games to be played. For SC and UF schedules, they would stay the same.

Though, none of it matters since the SEC has stated they will not be adding any more teams.
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Old 08-16-2011, 08:47 AM
 
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A big selling point is you can play in the best conference in college football. If a state rival got into the same conference, this is no longer a selling point.
What do you mean, it's no longer a selling point? South Carolina can still claim it is in the SEC , whether Clemson joins or not.

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Actually, it most likely wouldn't. State government mandates these games to be played. For SC and UF schedules, they would stay the same.
Yes, it would open up an OOC spot in scheduling every year. Clemson plays South Carolina OOC. If Clemson joins the SEC, the Clemson-Carolina game would be a conference game.

Same with UF-FSU.

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Though, none of it matters since the SEC has stated they will not be adding any more teams.
No, they didn't say that they weren't adding any more teams.

They said that they were satisfied with 12, that they may need more, that they talked about how to add more, and that the meeting resulted in no direct action.
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Old 08-16-2011, 02:56 PM
 
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........You guys really like this realignment soap opera don't you.

I'm waiting until the SEC actually says something of note. Until then I'm going 1960s on the Realignment News Cycle. No viewing until some OFFICIAL says something of importance.
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Old 08-16-2011, 05:46 PM
 
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lol

is that anything like the AL East?
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