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Old 08-22-2011, 09:13 AM
 
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And there is no excuse for Georgia not winning ten games a year.
Uh, SEC schedule?


Michigan
UCLA
Colorado
Clemson
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Old 08-22-2011, 09:16 AM
 
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Who do you think are some underachievers thatneed to have their butts slapped into gear?
Texas A&M
UCLA
Rutgers
Georgia Tech
Illinois
Maryland
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Old 08-22-2011, 09:17 AM
 
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Uh, SEC schedule?


Michigan
UCLA
Colorado
Clemson
why Colorado?
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Old 08-22-2011, 09:47 AM
 
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TAMU aggies started a trend in the 80's of playing a soft schedule, and that has continued and hurts them to this day.
They frequently play teams early in the season like the Wellsley School for girls and the Missouri school for the Blind, then when they have to play someone like Oklahoma State or Arkansas they get their bums handed to them on a plate.
Likewise, they often (but not always) get into a bowl by having a 6-5 win loss reord and get beat miserably by someone who beat 6 good teams to get there. Loading a schedule up with teams like Louisiana Lafayette (who beat them a few years back) and Arkansas State does not prepare them for games against Texas or Oklahoma (who is OK)
They have no ability to compete with the Big12 schoools because when they win, they get investigated and all sorts of crookedness turns up, and if they lose, the alumni who have very short memories call for the coach's head right then and there. Moving to the Southeast would not be an answer either.
What they need to do is find a coach who will grow a pair and play a tough schedule and establish the team as a true competitors


RAILIng on RAILING on other Texas schools, my Alma Mater, North Texas, has been a football joke since they made the jump to !A
If you want an example of a program who has done EVERYTHING wrong, then look no further.
If you doubt this, let me point out that back in 2A in the 80's they were in a conference with Louisiana Tech, Ark State and Louisinan Monroe. LT did everything right and landed in the better conference.
UNT made the jump and did everything wrong, landing in a now defunct conference and not following Boise State and others to better conferences.
UNT SHOULD have stayed Independant for a few eyars, allowed for regional rivalries against teams with stronger followings, and eventually followed a few others to WAC or MWC. Instead, they run a program on the cheap, spent alumni money to build a new high school sized tadium and promise that with the new coach things will get better.
Things will only get better in Denton when they wake up and Fire Rick Villareal and get an AD who has a pair and knows how to build a program.
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Old 08-22-2011, 07:30 PM
 
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Texas A&M and UNC
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Old 08-22-2011, 07:32 PM
 
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Most big schools have to split their in-state recruiting with 1 other major-conference school.

UNC must compete with 3 other schools, and the state of North Carolina does not produce all that many great football players to begin with. In terms of football talent it is comparable to South Carolina, which has half the number of schools, half the population, and a similar volume of high school talent.

Schools like LSU and Georgia, on the other hand, have a tremendous amount of in-state talent to themselves; LSU has no comparable in-state rival, and Georgia is splitting an extremely talented state with just Georgia Tech.
If you get right coach at UNC they won't have a problem. UT built a great program with not many local kids. Butch brought in some serious talent and even before him they'd put a good amount of kids in the NFL.
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Old 08-23-2011, 05:00 AM
 
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If you get right coach at UNC they won't have a problem.
yeah, but you could say that about any school. i just don't see what's so special about UNC, that wouldn't apply to Duke, Wake Forest, NC State, or UVA.
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Old 08-23-2011, 05:41 AM
 
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why Colorado?
Colorado used to be a top 10 program year in and year out. It's a shame that they've become non-competitive over the last decade or so.

I'm hoping the Buffs can turn it around after a few years in the Pac-12.
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Old 08-23-2011, 12:41 PM
 
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agree with Pitt.

if you post a who's who of old pitt players, people who dont' really follow the BE wouldn't believe it. They are top 3-4 team at sending stars to the NFL (per espn's study anyway), they are top 5-10 all time in college and pro football hall of famers, first team all americans, and national championships.
they aren't in a 'great' recruiting area, but a very good one..and if they could just succeed on the field they could outrecruit averyone in the NE for jersey/ny/maryland/dc players as well.

but as soon as they started turning it around 10 or so years ago, they brought in dave wannstedt who knocked them right back to 'slightly above average'

hopefully this new coach can do some things anyway





Another I would add is Penn State. They should be much better. People don't realize how pedestrian they have been because they always start 3 or 4-0 against new hampshire/akron/florida atlantic then go .500 in conference.

Now i'm not saying they are a bad team but they are the 2nd biggest school in the country(after cal). they have top 2-3 fan support. They have #1 financial support. yet they finish ~18th in the pools every year and are happy about it just because its better than Pitt and Temple..They are happy to go head to head with Rutgers and Maryland in recruiting when they should be beating out OSU and ND.

With those kinds of tools you should at least be in the NC hunt every couple years, but they havn't been in the title hunt past game 5 since 1996! Time to let the old man go and pony up for a seriously good coach.
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Old 08-23-2011, 01:35 PM
 
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yeah, but you could say that about any school. i just don't see what's so special about UNC, that wouldn't apply to Duke, Wake Forest, NC State, or UVA.
Huge fan base that loves sports. The only program you listed above that has that is NC State and I'd agree they could be a big time program with the right coach. UNC has a great overall athletic program and facilities.
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