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Old 09-08-2011, 03:24 PM
 
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Well whatever, as long as the ACC comes out ok, don't really care about Texas football hissy fits.

I mean you can't fault Baylor for looking for its own, but then again people will play (Baylor is keeping A and M from fufilling it's potential, HOW UNAMERICAN) card.

Anyways, everyone keeps saying A and M will be a bottom dweller.

Will they? I don't think so, not perrenially. They have a HUGE warchest (alumni support for football, facilities, etc.) and potential audience. They can be mid tier along the lines of what Miss St., Arky and S.Car is doing. Who knows maybe they can do more. (Who in the hell thought Miss St. would be able to do ANYTHING?)

Read your history, Ole Miss was a power back in the day during Jonny Vaught. LSU is probably having it's golden age JUST NOW in the Les Miles era. Florida was not the power it is now before Spurrier, things change and in the SEC no team will be on top forever, it's too tough a league.
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Old 09-08-2011, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Fort Mill, SC
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Realistically if I went down the street anywhere in Texas and asked what team they follow, I guarantee they point to either Texas or Oklahoma.
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Have you ever been to Texas? You have no idea what you're talking about.

It's about 60% Shorthorn, 30% Aggie, 5% Tech, 5%Sooner/TCU/SMU etc.

In Oklahoma on the other hand it's 80% Sooner, 20% Cowboy, and -.001 Shorthorn.
The question was rhetorical. Personally though I believe the numbers are way different than you lead on. And to answer your question, I have been to Houston many times.
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Old 09-08-2011, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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Well whatever, as long as the ACC comes out ok, don't really care about Texas football hissy fits.

I mean you can't fault Baylor for looking for its own, but then again people will play (Baylor is keeping A and M from fufilling it's potential, HOW UNAMERICAN) card.

Anyways, everyone keeps saying A and M will be a bottom dweller.

Will they? I don't think so, not perrenially. They have a HUGE warchest (alumni support for football, facilities, etc.) and potential audience. They can be mid tier along the lines of what Miss St., Arky and S.Car is doing. Who knows maybe they can do more. (Who in the hell thought Miss St. would be able to do ANYTHING?)

Read your history, Ole Miss was a power back in the day during Jonny Vaught. LSU is probably having it's golden age JUST NOW in the Les Miles era. Florida was not the power it is now before Spurrier, things change and in the SEC no team will be on top forever, it's too tough a league.
Actually it's the SEC that dropped that little "waiver" caveat on A&M - They don't want any part of possible litigation.
Baylor is just looking out for themselves, as they face a bleaker future when the Dinky Dozen (Big 12) implodes.

Anyways, Texas isn't having any hissy fit at all and signed the waiver.

But you are correct about A&M not being a perrenial bottom dweller in the SEC. No program occupies the top or bottom rung forever. Look what Bill Snyder did for KSU. Maybe Sherm is starting something good in College Station.
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Old 09-08-2011, 10:17 PM
 
Location: OKIE-Ville
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The question was rhetorical. Personally though I believe the numbers are way different than you lead on. And to answer your question, I have been to Houston many times.
What about DFW? There is much more convergence in Dallas/FortWorth with OU/A&M/Tech/Ut.

Houston is a very much a Shorthorn stronghold. You won't see too many Sooner shirts down there unless they're visiting.
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Old 09-09-2011, 06:46 AM
 
Location: Englewood, Near Eastside Indy
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I mean you can't fault Baylor for looking for its own, but then again people will play (Baylor is keeping A and M from fufilling it's potential, HOW UNAMERICAN) card.
This reminds me of the time the ACC raided the Big East. Va Tech was about to get left behind in the Big East, while Miami, Syracuse, and BC seemed destined for the ACC. It was at this time Va Tech threatened a lawsuit and the governer of Virginia started turning up the heat on the ACC. The ACC did the right thing and invited Va Tech instead of Syracuse.

SEC, do the right thing and invite Baylor. End this nonsense.
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Old 09-09-2011, 06:49 AM
 
Location: Fort Mill, SC
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But you are correct about A&M not being a perrenial bottom dweller in the SEC. No program occupies the top or bottom rung forever. Look what Bill Snyder did for KSU. Maybe Sherm is starting something good in College Station.
LSU has been in the top since 2000 when Saban took over.
UF has been in the top since 1990 when Spurrior took over.
Alabama, if not for booster money, would have been in the top for 30+ years.

10+ years and counting is a long time.

Texas A&M falls into the Arkansas category.
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Old 09-09-2011, 07:23 AM
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Location: Fort Worth
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What about DFW? There is much more convergence in Dallas/FortWorth with OU/A&M/Tech/Ut.

Houston is a very much a Shorthorn stronghold. You won't see too many Sooner shirts down there unless they're visiting.
I see more Aggie crap than Longhorns gear....
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Old 09-09-2011, 08:55 AM
 
Location: OKIE-Ville
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I see more Aggie crap than Longhorns gear....
Not my experience at all. I'm not saying I've never seen Aggie (or another team) gear there, but it's always been Horn-centric when I'm down that way.
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Old 09-09-2011, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Abilene, Texas
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I see more Aggie crap than Longhorns gear....
There are a lot of Aggie alumni in the Houston area so that wouldn't surprise me at all. College Station is only about 90 miles from Houston.
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Old 09-09-2011, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Abilene, Texas
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Here's a very interesting article about the current state of this mess and UT's role in it from Kirk Bohls, a sports writer for the Austin American-Statesman.

UT independence fraught with peril
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