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Old 09-19-2011, 01:19 PM
 
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CBS holding the broadcast rights to the best SEC games everyweek or NBC sitting there broadcasting ND v Navy or whatever low interest school they want to use to pad their record
Best SEC game week 1 was LSU vs Oregon. Now what channel was that on...
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Old 09-19-2011, 01:39 PM
 
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Oregon is in the SEC now?!

BTW - the SEC games on CBS have been the highest rated for the past two seasons

ABC is competative with them and has traditionally held the top spot

College football ratings down from 2009 Ventura County Star

NBC is very close to being surpassed by cable

Fans are growing up with different teams now - you have different faces in the title picture and all those teams are on TV every week as well

Now throw a TX team or two in the SEC or even more current some of the ratings matchups you can get in the Big 10 with NE on board

it's just going to expand and right now ABC isn't even beholden to a single conference
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Old 09-19-2011, 02:09 PM
 
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Best SEC game week 1 was LSU vs Oregon. Now what channel was that on...
An SEC game is when BOTH teams are in the SEC.
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Old 09-19-2011, 02:32 PM
 
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You do understand that if it happens it will regulate all the other D-I programs not in the 64 as basically DII programs. And NBC will NOT give ND another deal like that to watch them play football that is all but irrelevant.
ND will probably still be given an exception rule like they are now for the BCS (ND finishes higher than x# in the polls, and they get a BCS bowl). You do understand they arent in a Big Six conference now, right?
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Old 09-19-2011, 03:34 PM
 
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People have made great points about ND's independence in other blogs. It's a REAL BIG IDENTITY DEAL for them.

Barring that;

What it will come down to is the war chest.

Despite being a private small school, ND has a surprisingly potent football arsenal.

If they still feel they can keep up with the all the new possies with thier indy NBC deal then they will fight like hell to keep it.

Likely if the market swings out of it's favor and they can't guarantee that NBC will up the payout to keep out with those of other schools, then they will likely change its tune. The hard core lot will be dragged kicking and screaming, but they need to stay on a Big Stage to stay relevant to non-alumns and non-catholics particularly under the age 35 or so.
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Old 09-19-2011, 03:48 PM
 
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ND will probably still be given an exception rule like they are now for the BCS (ND finishes higher than x# in the polls, and they get a BCS bowl). You do understand they arent in a Big Six conference now, right?
What are you talking about? Are you having the same discussion we are?

We are talking about IF the super conferences are formed and succeed from the BCS and NCAA and there is a 4 team playoff that come from the 4 Super Conferences... how is ND gonna get an at large bid to that?

I'll wait...
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Old 09-19-2011, 08:48 PM
 
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What are you talking about? Are you having the same discussion we are?

We are talking about IF the super conferences are formed and succeed from the BCS and NCAA and there is a 4 team playoff that come from the 4 Super Conferences... how is ND gonna get an at large bid to that?

I'll wait...
Are you paying attention? Here is the bottom line: You dont think the Super Conferences would give an exception to ND? Why do you think they wouldnt? It is about money, and ND has lots of it. They will make an exception, just like the NCAA and BCS did, because of ND's money.

And before you say, there are just 4 teams, think again, my friend: They will come up with a way to let ND in if they can.

I'll wait...

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Old 09-20-2011, 08:16 AM
 
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Are you paying attention? Here is the bottom line: You dont think the Super Conferences would give an exception to ND? Why do you think they wouldnt? It is about money, and ND has lots of it. They will make an exception, just like the NCAA and BCS did, because of ND's money.

And before you say, there are just 4 teams, think again, my friend: They will come up with a way to let ND in if they can.

I'll wait...


You are delusional...

ND is NOT getting an exception. ND by themselves do NOT add any reason for Super conferences to give them exceptions. No ONE school in the country warrants that. Actually no one cares about ND except themselves and the Big10. And a 5 year 38M TV contract is hardly TONS of money... Plus their ratings are not even good!

"Chances are, you still think that Notre Dame is banking major revenue from this agreement in comparison to other teams. Chances are, you're wrong. What do Vanderbilt and Northwestern have in common when it comes to football? Answer: They likely both get more money for their televised football games than Notre Dame does. As does every other team in the Big Ten and the SEC.

Now for some numbers.

In 2008, NBC ponied up an extension to the Fighting Irish television contract. USA Today reported that the current contract paid Notre Dame in the neighborhood of $9 million per year. The new deal won't begin until 2010, but it's doubtful the rights fees increased very much, since Notre Dame's television ratings have been dwindling for several years. (Last season, the average Notre Dame game on NBC drew less than half the ratings that CBS and ABC averaged for their college football games.) The new NBC deal only covers eight Irish games a year (seven home tilts plus one neutral site game), Television rights for the remaining four away games are part of the rights packages sold by those other teams"

From the article: As Notre Dame's TV Money Dwindles, So Too Should Its Independence


"Entering bowl season, college football has left viewers less than entranced. CBS’ Southeastern Conference games were the highest-rated college TV package in averaging 4.2% — down 4%. ESPN’s games were even, but ESPN2′s were down 10%. ABC’s games were off 10%, and NBC’s Notre Dame games were off 12%."

From the article: Notre Dame’s TV ratings down 12% | Ben Maller (http://benmaller.com/2010/12/notre-dames-tv-ratings-down-12/ - broken link)


And here are their ratings as well as the top 10 ratings of ALL games last year... You know whats missing from that top 10 list? NOTRE DAME's NBC games... They only appear once and its with USC, a game on ABC. and the entire Big10 is missing!!!


[CENTER]Source:
Sports Business Daily: (http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=sbd.main&articleID=144339 - broken link)[/CENTER]

From this article:
http://collegesportsinfo.com/2010/12/17/2010-college-football-tv-ratings/



And you think the SEC, PAC-12, ACC are gonna give ND an exception?

I think the Big10 would because they slobber over ND. But it will be a 3-1 vote to make them join a Super Conference. the SEC and Pac-12 will dictate the rules, believe that! And mostly the SEC...

What else you got???

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Old 09-20-2011, 03:58 PM
 
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Im not being delusional. Look, ND has been sliding into irrelevance for years now, and NBC still re-upped. Stop quoting the 5yr/38M deal--that deal was 20 years ago--and in a different college football landscape. It had a way bigger significance--a time when no one had such a deal in place. Yet, in '08 NBC still re-upped.

But here is the point:

Should ND have recieved an exception to play a BCS game? No.
Should ND have recieved an exclusive contract on a major network in the first place? No.
Should they have joined the Big Ten a long time ago? Probably--but the BCS deal probably allowed them to stay independant.

ND holds an illogical place in the college football world right NOW. I am saying dont be surprised if they hold an illogical place in the college football world when all of this shakes out. Why does ND hold this illogical position (Boosters? Money?)? Dont be surprised if they are granted another, albeit, illogical exception.
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Old 09-20-2011, 05:34 PM
 
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Stop quoting the 5yr/38M deal--that deal was 20 years ago--and in a different college football landscape. It had a way bigger significance--a time when no one had such a deal in place. Yet, in '08 NBC still re-upped.
They re-upped the SAME deal in '08... Only because NBC had no other options. And it's still 5yr/38M! yea impressive.

Again... The BCS gave ND a pass. BCS will not be a part of the playoff. Thus no pass. not hard to understand. Their money, prestige, and ancient history of success will not matter in the new league that is not part of
The NCAA.
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