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Old 09-28-2011, 11:25 AM
 
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Mizzou to the SEC chatter continues to grow:

Mizzou-to-SEC chatter continues to grow | CollegeFootballTalk
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Old 09-28-2011, 01:36 PM
 
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as an SEC fan, I hope we don't take Missouri. I don't think they are a good fit, culturally or geographically.

if it was my decision, i'd ask, (in order)

1. UNC
2. VaTech
3. FSU
4. NC State
5. Clemson
6. Georgia Tech
7. Maryland
8. West Virginia
9. Missouri

I think UNC is almost guaranteed to say no... I think NC State or Virginia Tech would entertain the idea, though.

"The pundits" say that Missouri and Maryland bring in big TV markets, but I think "the pundits" have a big city NFL mentality and don't understand college fans or college ball.

The same pundits also say that Florida wouldn't allow FSU, South Carolina wouldn't allow Clemson, and Georgia wouldn't allow Georgia Tech.... however I don't believe that these are safe assumptions.

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Old 09-28-2011, 02:08 PM
 
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It's a football conference onegoal for crying out loud, Not a reflection of a state's culture. Good grief.... Drop the ridiculous crap trying to hijack every thread and turn it into a discussion about how southern you think Missouri is.
your comment is exactly the reason i don't want missouri in the SEC. culture is important in SEC membership.
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Old 09-28-2011, 03:15 PM
 
Location: West Tennessee
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your comment is exactly the reason i don't want missouri in the SEC. culture is important in SEC membership.
Since you have no idea of the history behind the quoted individual's comments and hijacking all kinds of threads in the Missouri forum (Where this thread originated), I stand by what I said. I agree Mizzou doesn't belong in the SEC because culturally Missouri is not "southeastern" and not to mention distance from any other team in the conference. I wont comment on what was implied since it's off topic and Lord knows we don't need any more of that garbage in this thread

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Old 09-28-2011, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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I think Missouri would love to wait a year or two, and see if Notre Dame finally joins the Big 10. Then they would likely get an invite.
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Old 09-29-2011, 09:33 AM
 
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Big 10 all the way. Much better academic fit as well.
Actually, that's not true. If you look at metrics such as research expenditures, the number of top 20 programs, professors in the National Academies, etc, Mizzou would be dead last with Nebraska in the Big 10 and right in the middle in the SEC.
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Old 09-29-2011, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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But unlike Nebraska, MU is a member of the AAU.

Nebraska has the distinction of being the first university ever to be expelled from the AAU.
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Old 09-29-2011, 12:15 PM
 
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But unlike Nebraska, MU is a member of the AAU.

Nebraska has the distinction of being the first university ever to be expelled from the AAU.
Harvard, Princeton, MIT, & Stanford are also members of the AAU. Do you really think Mizzou is the academic equivalent of those schools? AAU membership is fine and dandy but there is such a huge gap between the top and bottom schools that using membership as an metric is almost meaningless.
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Old 09-29-2011, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Land of Ill Noise
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as an SEC fan, I hope we don't take Missouri. I don't think they are a good fit, culturally or geographically.

if it was my decision, i'd ask, (in order)

1. UNC
2. VaTech
3. FSU
4. NC State
5. Clemson
6. Georgia Tech
7. Maryland
8. West Virginia
9. Missouri

I think UNC is almost guaranteed to say no... I think NC State or Virginia Tech would entertain the idea, though.

"The pundits" say that Missouri and Maryland bring in big TV markets, but I think "the pundits" have a big city NFL mentality and don't understand college fans or college ball.

The same pundits also say that Florida wouldn't allow FSU, South Carolina wouldn't allow Clemson, and Georgia wouldn't allow Georgia Tech.... however I don't believe that these are safe assumptions.
Just slightly curious, what have you heard source-wise or rumor-wise, that would suggest UNC would say no to an invite to the SEC? Interesting you say that, but then again the more I think about it, such a move out of the ACC wouldn't make sense, since it'd destroy UNC's infamous rivalries with other ACC colleges(namely NC State and Duke). Plus UNC's football program wouldn't be a good fit in the SEC, since they traditionally have not had a strong football program.

I'm actually surprised anyway that there is so much talk about Mizzou joining the SEC, since I've always believed the conference that would fit for them the best would be the Big 10, if the Big 12 does ultimately break up. (and ever since Nebraska and Colorado jumped, I've believed the Big 12 is in big danger of break up, a la the former Southwestern Conference) I believe Iowa State would also fit in well, if the Big 10 wanted to expand. Notre Dame would also fit in the B10, though part of me feels that ultimately in the end, they'll remain independent.

It's amazing how much realignment is occurring, especially since I still have trouble picturing in my mind how Texas A&M is going to fit into the SEC, when it moves next year. But I guess it shows how money has overrun collegiate conferences(and sports) too much today....
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Old 09-29-2011, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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Harvard, Princeton, MIT, & Stanford are also members of the AAU. Do you really think Mizzou is the academic equivalent of those schools? AAU membership is fine and dandy but there is such a huge gap between the top and bottom schools that using membership as an metric is almost meaningless.
But being expelled is not meaningless.

At least Mizzou is still a member.
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