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Old 06-23-2012, 02:39 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Mr Yuk View Post
If there's any religious fanatics here, its the blue-and-white Kool Aid drinking JoePa cult members.
So where's the acquittal? Where's the mistrial? Some of the jurors had connections to Penn State, after all. One of them even had football season tickets. Jerry Sandusky was convicted anyway. Looks like you have too much zeal yourself.


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Then why did JoePa let Sandusky continue to hang around the program, and come on the sidelines with his 'guests'.
The university board of trustees granted Sandusky emeritus status and permitted him access to the university and the team facilities. Joe Paterno had nothing to do with that decision.


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There will be a Texas Ranger there to arrest him & serve him with extradition papers - for his rape of a boy in his San Antonio hotel room when Pedo State was playing in the Alamo Bowl.

The Texas jury will NOT be stacked with PSU grads & fans.
No need for it; the Penn State graduates and fans just convicted Jerry Sandusky on 45 of the 48 charges he faced. Looks like you can take your cynicism and your Texas bravado and shove them both.

 
Old 06-23-2012, 03:28 AM
 
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Oh hai!

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Originally Posted by Dan Wetzel, Yahoo! Sports
Soon reporters were racing out of the courthouse, set to break the news of the guilty verdict to a huge throng that had gathered on the steps. Dottie Sandusky was kneeling by then in front of her family, trying to provide comfort when the word of the verdict hit the masses.

The roaring cheers and screams of joy swept right through the courthouse door, up the stairs and into the second-floor courtroom. They startled Dottie, whose head snapped up at the noise and then sunk down as she realized the people of Centre County were celebrating her husband's demise.
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They walked Sandusky out the back door of the courthouse and to a waiting sheriff's vehicle, just 50 yards downhill from where they used to hang criminals in the courtyard of the old county jail.
Back then they'd invite as many people as they could fit to ring the gallows and bear witness. Those that couldn't gain admission would climb the roofs of local houses to watch the execution from high above in this old tightly packed, Victorian downtown.

That was the 1800s, but things haven't changed so much; just five miles from here, at the Rockview prison, is the state's execution chamber. And in Bellefonte tradition, a crowd gathered to jeer and scream Friday night behind the courthouse, to let their venom ring around Sandusky's head for eternity.

Happy Valley, indeed.

The verdict ended the fallacy that this was an area too devoted to Penn State football to render a fair and proper judgment. The anger at Sandusky was deeper than the outside world could fathom. There may have been a conspiracy to protect Sandusky in the highest levels of Penn State. That will be played out in legal proceedings against university officials, an independent investigation set for release next month and the inevitable slew of civil cases to come that will seek to tap into the school's $1.8 billion endowment.

None of that represents the rank and file here, not the good people who never hesitated to see Sandusky as a monster and were pained when he seemingly dragged the entire region's reputation down with him.
Remember when some ignorant individuals labeled the city of State College and the county of Centre a "cult"?
 
Old 06-23-2012, 08:23 AM
 
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So where's the acquittal? Where's the mistrial? Some of the jurors had connections to Penn State, after all. One of them even had football season tickets. Jerry Sandusky was convicted anyway. Looks like you have too much zeal yourself.




The university board of trustees granted Sandusky emeritus status and permitted him access to the university and the team facilities. Joe Paterno had nothing to do with that decision.




No need for it; the Penn State graduates and fans just convicted Jerry Sandusky on 45 of the 48 charges he faced. Looks like you can take your cynicism and your Texas bravado and shove them both.
Few ever defended Sadusky. We'll see how it goes with the other school officials and the coverup.
 
Old 06-23-2012, 01:21 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Gnutella View Post
So where's the acquittal? Where's the mistrial? Some of the jurors had connections to Penn State, after all. One of them even had football season tickets. Jerry Sandusky was convicted anyway. Looks like you have too much zeal yourself.




The university board of trustees granted Sandusky emeritus status and permitted him access to the university and the team facilities. Joe Paterno had nothing to do with that decision.




No need for it; the Penn State graduates and fans just convicted Jerry Sandusky on 45 of the 48 charges he faced. Looks like you can take your cynicism and your Texas bravado and shove them both.
Props to the jury for their verdict, but PSU isn't off the hook for the administration's conspiracy to cover up this filthy scandal.
Unlike your institution that was supposed to be a leading moral compass for college athletics, at least we clean house when predators/miscreants are discovered, particularly when caught in the act.

The cynicism comes from a lot of America watching the widespread JoePa cultist behavior on TV and online, so don't be so defensive.

And to think that Joe Paterno didn't have the balls to defy that board and ban a known pedophile from HIS campus is an indictment of the school's cultish behavior....from top to bottom. Total corruption.

And the PSU board of trustees belongs in prison too....if what you said is true.

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Old 06-23-2012, 03:15 PM
 
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Props to the jury for their verdict, but PSU isn't off the hook for the administration's conspiracy to cover up this filthy scandal.
Unlike your institution that was supposed to be a leading moral compass for college athletics, at least we clean house when predators/miscreants are discovered, particularly when caught in the act.
The men who have been charged with perjury have also been removed from the university. Is that not cleaning house? The Board of Trustees is next, and so might be Gov. Tom Corbett, the attorney general at the time who chose not to investigate. Many Pennsylvania Republicans are outraged with Gov. Corbett.


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The cynicism comes from a lot of America watching the widespread JoePa cultist behavior on TV and online, so don't be so defensive.
It's no different than the affection I've seen for Mike Krzyzewski, yet I don't hear anybody labeling Durham, NC a cult. Hell, I live in an SEC college town these days; you want to talk about the occult?


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And to think that Joe Paterno didn't have the balls to defy that board and ban a known pedophile from HIS campus is an indictment of the school's cultish behavior....from top to bottom. Total corruption.
If you cleaned up a mess and then somebody else made a new mess a short time later, would you want to clean the new mess up too? You'd expect the person who made the new mess to clean it up, right? Joe Paterno had Jerry Sandusky removed from the football program after the 1998 season and told him, "You will never be the head coach at Penn State." Prior to the 1998 allegations, Paterno and Sandusky were close; afterward, Paterno didn't even attend Sandusky's "retirement" ceremony. That's telling.

For one reason or another, nothing came of the 1998 investigation, but Paterno had washed his hands of Sandusky. Then the Board of Trustees granted Sandusky emeritus status plus all those other perks, and after the 2001 allegations, Paterno basically said, "You *******s gave him access to the university after I got rid of him; you deal with this problem because you created it." This is what Paterno regretted, and why he said, "I should have done more." But I understand his perspective because we all expect the person (or people) who made a mess to clean it up. Was it a bad decision by Paterno? Yes, in hindsight. Does it make him evil? No.


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And the PSU board of trustees belongs in prison too....if what you said is true.
By the time the legal process runs its course, the Board of Trustees is going to be held responsible for enabling Jerry Sandusky to continue being a sociopath and ruining the lives of young boys, and also for severely damaging (if not destroying) the reputation of one of the top universities in the United States.
 
Old 06-23-2012, 05:34 PM
 
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That's a more reasonable look, except Paterno gets NO props from a lot of us. His "washing his hands" just contributed to more rapes, so there are no excuses for him. He's as guilty as the other conspirators, IMO. The most powerful man in that town and he "washes his hands". That's a sign of extreme moral weakness and indicates the football program was more important than those young boys' lives being destroyed.

But some of us here in Texas already knew JoePa's backbone was in question since 1969.

It's really too bad for the school's now stained reputation, but that's the way unfortunately it is. Same kind of treatment the Catholiic Church is getting. I sincerely hope things heal there and lessons are learned, because it is the flagship educational institution of Pennsylvania and the school itself has earned a great deal of respect nationwide in previous years.

Caveat:

One reason these kinds of cases are a hot button issue with me personally is because our ex-daughter-in-law was raped, sodomized, and brutally beaten to near death by a sociopath animal similar to this Sandusky scum. Unfortunately her rapist still walks around as a free man, undoubtedly vicimizing other innocent women.
 
Old 06-23-2012, 07:00 PM
 
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Originally Posted by ScoPro View Post
Props to the jury for their verdict, but PSU isn't off the hook for the administration's conspiracy to cover up this filthy scandal.
Unlike your institution that was supposed to be a leading moral compass for college athletics, at least we clean house when predators/miscreants are discovered, particularly when caught in the act.

The cynicism comes from a lot of America watching the widespread JoePa cultist behavior on TV and online, so don't be so defensive.

And to think that Joe Paterno didn't have the balls to defy that board and ban a known pedophile from HIS campus is an indictment of the school's cultish behavior....from top to bottom. Total corruption.

And the PSU board of trustees belongs in prison too....if what you said is true.
 
Old 06-23-2012, 07:01 PM
 
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Originally Posted by ScoPro View Post
That's a more reasonable look, except Paterno gets NO props from a lot of us. His "washing his hands" just contributed to more rapes, so there are no excuses for him. He's as guilty as the other conspirators, IMO. The most powerful man in that town and he "washes his hands". That's a sign of extreme moral weakness and indicates the football program was more important than those young boys' lives being destroyed.

But some of us here in Texas already knew JoePa's backbone was in question since 1969.

It's really too bad for the school's now stained reputation, but that's the way unfortunately it is. Same kind of treatment the Catholiic Church is getting. I sincerely hope things heal there and lessons are learned, because it is the flagship educational institution of Pennsylvania and the school itself has earned a great deal of respect nationwide in previous years.

Caveat:

One reason these kinds of cases are a hot button issue with me personally is because our ex-daughter-in-law was raped, sodomized, and brutally beaten to near death by a sociopath animal similar to this Sandusky scum. Unfortunately her rapist still walks around as a free man, undoubtedly vicimizing other innocent women.
 
Old 06-29-2012, 09:46 AM
 
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Old 07-02-2012, 01:14 PM
 
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Joe Paterno influenced Penn State officials to keep quiet about Jerry Sandusky, emails reveal - NY Daily News
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