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Old 09-29-2012, 05:11 AM
 
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Which serves to demonstrate the pettiness, and simplistic vulgarity of many among the lynch mob.

Cackle as much as you like; in the days before the PR masterminds let it all get out of hand, the Penn State program was built around in-state, snd even local talent -- names like Suhey, Collins, Bahr and Harris. Those famiilies are still with us.

And once the sanctions have run their course, I expect the progarm to recover quickly. In the meantime, the self-appointed moralists can flaunt their hypocrasy to their hearts' content.
Nationally the Big 10 is doing horrible. PSU with no issues is maybe the 6th beat program. It will be very tough to get back to average in Big 10

 
Old 10-06-2012, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Newport, NC
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WE ARE PENN STATE!
WE ARE PENN STATE!
WE ARE PENN STATE!

Who's next on the list to get beat?
 
Old 10-06-2012, 10:01 PM
 
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WE ARE PENN STATE!
WE ARE PENN STATE!
WE ARE PENN STATE!

Who's next on the list to get beat?
Some other bad Big 10 team?
 
Old 10-07-2012, 05:58 AM
 
Location: Newport, NC
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Yea, Northwestern was bad enough to be ranked 24th in the country when PSU beat them.
 
Old 10-10-2012, 04:15 AM
 
Location: Nescopeck, Penna. (birthplace)
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With Sandusky now guaranteed to rot until it's too late to care and Paterno dead and buried, the point remains:

What sort of ingrained blindness and stupidity allowed this tragedy to occur? How, in an educational institution where all business majors are required to complete a course in organizational behavior, and a state where all educational jobs require a sex-crimes clearance, in a society where the "New Sensitivity" is paramount --- could this strange combination of aberrant behaviors be allowed to run its course???

Paterno is culpable with regard to some of his actions, but I cannot envision the man as the key player in an organized plan. The cover-up was perpetuated either because (1) some Board members with animosity toward the football program viewed it as an opportunity to let the program damage itself or, (2) other persons within the University's power structure were determined to continue the flow of revenue at the risk of any cost. Too much salesmanship, too much "image", and far too little integrity.

My personal journey through Penn State started nearly fifty years ago, when a man named Mike Lynch presented a public-relations slide show at an agricultural banquet, a labor of lo\ve and respect he would continue until the end of his days some 28 years later. That was the sort of one-on-one bonding that built the University one alumnus at a time, It was the shameless commercialism, and the inherent two-faced behavior of the corporate world, and its shills on Madison Avenue, that has torn a lot of it down.

To the present student body, and to those recent graduates who never experienced what we stood for before the schlockmeisters allowed one rogue to ruin everything, I can only say "You don't know what you missed."

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Old 10-10-2012, 08:11 AM
 
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Bob Costas was on the Mike & Mike show this morning. He was asked about the Penn State situation and specifically the Freeh Report:

"Those were FREEH'S conclusions." emphasis on FREEH

To paraphrase, he said he's still sorting thru it himself, but to think that Joe, Curley, Schultz, GS all knew the depth of what they were dealing with and covered it up willingly and actively just to protect the football program were simply Freeh's conclusions, many credible people have already questioned it and he believes it is going to be publicly challenged in the near future, and that the public will have to make up their minds about Freeh's conclusions.

He didn't come out and SAY it because it sounded like he didn't want to take a side, but to me, it sounded like he was essentially thinking "Freeh really jumped to conclusions and the report really should be challenged"

These types of national media giants are EXACTLY what is needed to get this conversation moving in the right direction for once. Not saying this is any kind of huge victory or anything, but it's nice to see one of the most respected sports journalists on a national program question Freeh's report.
 
Old 10-10-2012, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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Question it all you like and continue grasping at those elusive straws.
 
Old 10-10-2012, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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I hope Sandusky gets his wish and gets to stay in gen pop. Kid rapists do well there.
 
Old 10-11-2012, 04:14 AM
 
Location: Nescopeck, Penna. (birthplace)
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Those of us from Pennsylvania, and of a certain age, remember the Joseph Yablonski murders of 1969. I was an undergraduate at the time and shared quarters with a gent from Cambia County whose father was a steward in the UMW. He was very much a partisan for the late W. A. "Tony" Boyle who, after six years and three cycles of trials, was eventually convicted of complicity and died in prison about a year later.

My point being, there is no staute of limitations on fact. The role of key figures other than Sandusky and Paterno, the somewhat-too-cozy relationship between the Freeh inquiry and the Board of Trustees who sanctioned it a little too eagerly, the failure of state and local authorities to follow up on allegations back in 1999 and 2001, and the identity of the individuals and groups who began "spinning" the story toward a specific agenda within hous of its origin -- all of these issues are going to get a closer scrutiny whether the more simplistic approve or not.

Those who have nothing to hide have nothing to fear, but those who have nothing to lose have all the time in the world.
 
Old 10-11-2012, 10:41 AM
 
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Sandusky and his wife seem to be in the same denial as many of the posters around here. Nothing happened, it was all a witch-hunt...blah blah blah....
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