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Old 11-15-2011, 07:49 PM
Location: Waco, TX
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Stronger than Vanderbilt, Kentucky, and Mississippi. None of those conferences are as strong as the current SEC, and that is a good thing. More level competition across the board.
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Old 11-19-2011, 08:02 AM
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I know you're not getting defensive (and I did ask), and I appreciate the input. And frankly I agree with a few of your points, like I actually can't even believe I forgot Houston in all that. I was trying to bring back some of the old "Southwestern" conference teams like SMU (who is on a slow rise back to it's old glory days) and Houston...
Some of those teams that ARE bad, were kind of added for a "Balance of power thing" because a Conference with: Florida, Florida State, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Clemson, South Carolina is already just CRAZY!!! Gotta have someone to even it out a little.

How about THIS:

*Bowl Alliance between a 10 team ACC & 10 team Big East

ACC (Sub Conference)---------------------- (10 teams)
Miami Hurricanes
Virginia Tech Hokies
Boston College Eagles
Maryland Terrapines
Virginia Cavaliers
North Carolina Tar Heels
Duke Blue Devils
NC State Wolfpack
Wake Forest Demon Deacons
Central Florida Knights

2 best records play for ACC Championship. Winner goes to ORANGEBOWL

BIG EAST (Sub Conference)--------------------(10 teams)
Pittsburgh Panthers
Notre Dame Fighting Irish
Syracuse Orangemen
Rutgers Scarlet Knights
Louisville Cardinals
Cincinnati Bearcats
UCONN Huskies
South Florida Bulls
Villanova Wildcats
Temple Owls

2 best records play for Big East Championship. Winner goes to ORANGEBOWL

*Addition of 8 teams to SEC, then split SEC into 2 separate conferences

SEC EAST (Sub Conference)---------------------- (10 teams)
Georgia Bulldogs
Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets
Florida Gators
Florida State Seminoles
South Carolina Gamecocks
Clemson Tigers
Kentucky Wildcats
West Virginia Mountaineers
Tennessee Volunteers
Vanderbilt Commadores

2 best records play for SEC EAST Championship. Winner goes to SUGARBOWL

SEC WEST (Sub Conference)--------------------(10 teams)
Louisiana State Tigers
Texas A&M Aggies
Texas Christian Horned Frogs
Alabama Crimson Tide
Auburn Tigers
Ole Miss Rebels
Mississippi State Bulldogs
Southern Methodist Mustangs (Supports TCU vs SMU rivalry)
Southern Mississippi Golden Eagles
Alabama-Birmingham Blazers

2 best records play for SEC WEST Championship. Winner goes to SUGARBOWL

*Add teams to the BIG 12, then split into two new conferences that have an alliance for Fiesta Bowl participation.

SOUTHWEST (Sub Conference)---------------------- (10 teams)
Texas Longhorns
Oklahoma Sooners
Oklahoma State Cowboys
Texas Tech Red Raiders
Nebraska Cornhuskers
Boise State Broncos
Utah Utes
Brigham Young Cougars
Fresno State Bulldogs
San Diego State Aztecs

2 best records play for SOUTHWEST Championship. Winner goes to FIESTABOWL***Note below***

MIDWEST (Sub Conference)--------------------(10 teams)
Missouri Tigers
Arkansas Razorbacks
Iowa Hawkeyes
Kansas Jayhawks
Kansas State Wildcats
Iowa State Cyclones
Memphis Tigers
Colorado Buffaloes
Houston Cougars

Baylor Bears

2 best records play for MIDWEST Championship. Winner goes to FIESTABOWL

*Remains a bowl alliance between BIG 10 & PAC 10 (former PAC 12)

BIG 10 (Sub Conference)---------------------- (10 teams)
Ohio State Buckeyes
Michigan Wolverines
Penn State Nittany Lions
Michigan State Spartans
Wisconsin Badgers
Purdue Boilermakers
Indiana Hoosiers
Illinois Fighting Illini
Northwestern Wildcats
Minnesota Golden Gophers

2 best records play for BIG 10 Championship. Winner goes to ROSEBOWL

PAC 10 (Sub Conference)--------------------(10 teams)
Southern California Trojans
UCLA Bruins
Stanford Cardinals
California Golden Bears
Oregon Ducks
Oregon State Beavers
Arizona State Sun Devils
Arizona Wildcats
Washington Huskies
Washington State Cougars

2 best records play for PAC 10 Championship. Winner goes to ROSEBOWL
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Old 02-13-2012, 11:07 AM
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Old 02-13-2012, 06:42 PM
Location: Midtown Omaha
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I am a fan of the Catholic East Basketball Conference.
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Old 02-14-2012, 08:37 AM
Location: Webster Groves, MO
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I like Jasomm's plan. It requires the least amount of work in that fewer teams would have to move conferences. I would also support playing 10 regular season games: 8 conference games and 2 non-conference games. In the 14-team power conferences you would play all 6 teams in your division 1 time and rotate playing 2 games against the other division. Then you would have a conference championship game between the two division winners. In the 18-team lower conferences I would actually break them into six 9-team conferences. Then you could have a rotating schedule where they played each other in games to determine 3 "conference champions".

The playoffs I would propose is a 24 team playoff. In College BB there are approximately 345 D-I schools. Sixty-eight or 20% make the tournament. So 24 teams would be about 20% of college football FBS schools. For a 24 team playoff to work, 8 teams would get first round byes. These would be the 5 power conference champions and the 3 lower conference champions. Then the other 16 "at-large" schools would be decided by some sort of ranking system. The total season would be similar to what it is now at 14-16 weeks. But 5 weeks of it would be playoffs.
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Old 02-14-2012, 08:55 AM
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part of the reason I set it up that way is it basically becomes a 16 team tournament when you consider the conference championship games...
10 divisions of 7, and 6 divisions of 9 each have a representative.

I'd stick with the 12 game season though (everyone plays 9 conference games). That way you can still schedule regular season rivalry games out of conference. And the Championship game is the 16th for 2 teams, which is manageable.
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Old 02-14-2012, 08:58 AM
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I'm usually not big on these "fantasy" threads, but found it funny that "Mountain USA" is going to become a reality.

It's a good deal as far as recognition for those schools, since a lot of the mid-majors with good programs will be in the new conference. I also like that they are talking about having a conference semi-final as well as a championship game.

Only bad part is there will be a lot of travel, but some of the smaller conferences already have to deal with this--I imagine they will organize it by region which might actually result in less travel.
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Old 02-14-2012, 09:00 AM
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yeah... back when they were talking super conferences some people around the country were talking about a "pod" system within a conference.
like having 4 groups of 4 (or 5) team. Then each pod sends a rep to the conference playoff. Generally works better for the wacky geographies that are forming.
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