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Old 11-25-2011, 10:04 PM
 
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If ok st wins next weekend, then I want a Cowboys/Tigers NC game. I like Bama, but they already had their head to head chance. Ok st lost a tough, Friday game, a few days after a campus disaster. Of all the scenarios left, they are the fairest choice, and have the most ability to hang with Lsu.
OK State won't beat Oklahoma... And even if they did a loss to Iowa State is worse than Bama's loss to LSU.
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Old 11-25-2011, 10:09 PM
 
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If ok st wins next weekend, then I want a Cowboys/Tigers NC game. I like Bama, but they already had their head to head chance. Ok st lost a tough, Friday game, a few days after a campus disaster. Of all the scenarios left, they are the fairest choice, and have the most ability to hang with Lsu.
In a way, I agree that the fair and perhaps 'right' thing to do would be to give OK St. the chance. It makes sense if you believe that a national championship game should give all good or qualified teams the chance to beat LSU at least once. If you use that argument, yes, I agree that Alabama had their chance and that OK St. deserves a shot. Besides Alabama, they're probably the best one-loss team out there.

Unfortunately, losing to Iowa St. is what really hurts them at this point. They were once the number two team. They had a clear path to the title game, and they simply blew it, allowing Alabama and Arkansas to get back in it. And to be honest, out of all the teams I've seen this year, I would have to say that Alabama is the one team that was able to go toe-to-toe with LSU. If they had a better kicker, they probably would have dropped the Tigers and we'd be discussing why LSU shouldn't get a chance at redemption against Alabama.

Oklahoma still has an outside shot. Arkansas will surely fall back a few spots, so they're no longer in contention. It would come down to Ok St. and Alabama. They need two things to happen:

1) Ok. St. has to win first, and if possible, win convincingly. They have to dominate OU on both sides of the football. If they have to take it to the 4th quarter and win a 45-42 shootout, that's going to convince pollsters that a) OU isn't really that great an opponent, and b) Ok St. doesn't have a defense to stop LSU. They already know Alabama does, so they'll be comparing OK St. to the Tide.

2) Although they're surely hoping for Alabama to lose, that may not be absolutely necessary (if they can accomplish #1). Obviously, an Alabama loss would put OK St. (and maybe one or two others) in contention again. But if Alabama just struggles against Auburn a little bit, that could be trouble for the Tide, too. In fact, it would be particularly bad if Bama were to struggle, and then LSU were to lose in the SEC title game next week. The pollsters would have to push LSU's BCS percentage down, and Alabama's loss to LSU would have a greater effect on their chances.

Even longer shots, but still possibly up for consideration are: Stanford, Boise St., and an extremely long shot with today's win might be Houston (although it's almost impossible based on their SoS).
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Old 11-25-2011, 10:12 PM
 
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In a way, I agree that the fair and perhaps 'right' thing to do would be to give OK St. the chance. It makes sense if you believe that a national championship game should give all good or qualified teams the chance to beat LSU at least once. If you use that argument, yes, I agree that Alabama had their chance and that OK St. deserves a shot. Besides Alabama, they're probably the best one-loss team out there.

Unfortunately, losing to Iowa St. is what really hurts them at this point. They were once the number two team. They had a clear path to the title game, and they simply blew it, allowing Alabama and Arkansas to get back in it. And to be honest, out of all the teams I've seen this year, I would have to say that Alabama is the one team that was able to go toe-to-toe with LSU. If they had a better kicker, they probably would have dropped the Tigers and we'd be discussing why LSU shouldn't get a chance at redemption against Alabama.

Oklahoma still has an outside shot. Arkansas will surely fall back a few spots, so they're no longer in contention. It would come down to Ok St. and Alabama. They need two things to happen:

1) Ok. St. has to win first, and if possible, win convincingly. They have to dominate OU on both sides of the football. If they have to take it to the 4th quarter and win a 45-42 shootout, that's going to convince pollsters that a) OU isn't really that great an opponent, and b) Ok St. doesn't have a defense to stop LSU. They already know Alabama does, so they'll be comparing OK St. to the Tide.

2) Although they're surely hoping for Alabama to lose, that may not be absolutely necessary (if they can accomplish #1). Obviously, an Alabama loss would put OK St. (and maybe one or two others) in contention again. But if Alabama just struggles against Auburn a little bit, that could be trouble for the Tide, too. In fact, it would be particularly bad if Bama were to struggle, and then LSU were to lose in the SEC title game next week. The pollsters would have to push LSU's BCS percentage down, and Alabama's loss to LSU would have a greater effect on their chances.

Even longer shots, but still possibly up for consideration are: Stanford, Boise St., and an extremely long shot with today's win might be Houston (although it's almost impossible based on their SoS).
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If they had a better kicker, they probably would have dropped the Tigers
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Probably? How about 110% definitely!
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Old 11-25-2011, 10:16 PM
 
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OK State won't beat Oklahoma... And even if they did a loss to Iowa State is worse than Bama's loss to LSU.
You're probably right in that the loss to Iowa St. might do them in. I just wonder what would happen if Ok St. wins, Alabama struggles, and then LSU loses to Georgia next week. Maybe nothing changes, but their might be a consensus in the sports media to 'do something' to avert an all-SEC title game.
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Old 11-25-2011, 11:21 PM
 
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You're probably right in that the loss to Iowa St. might do them in. I just wonder what would happen if Ok St. wins, Alabama struggles, and then LSU loses to Georgia next week. Maybe nothing changes, but their might be a consensus in the sports media to 'do something' to avert an all-SEC title game.
Unless LSU loses like 35-0 they should be good. And that's not happening.

and a 2 loss OK team is not as impressive to beat now for OK State.

Unless Bama loses they will get in too...
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Old 11-26-2011, 01:18 PM
 
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Have no problem playing Alabama or whoever for the National title, I mean how many top 5 teams does LSU have to beat, hey no problem, but check this out...

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Old 11-26-2011, 09:04 PM
 
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I'd be happy for an LSU Bama rematch, I enjoyed their first defensive matchup but will find it hard to believe that it would be a 9-6 scoreline again.
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Old 11-26-2011, 09:56 PM
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ABC showed a screen in the Stanford/ND game earlier projecting OKC St. playing Stanford in which bowl game i forgot..

They said if LSU wins next week, they will be definitely playing Bama no matter what. I have a feeling Arky only drops one spot or possibly two. I also think if LSU played Bama with the time off (a month off), Saban might figure out a way to beat LSU.
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Old 11-26-2011, 10:22 PM
 
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ABC showed a screen in the Stanford/ND game earlier projecting OKC St. playing Stanford in which bowl game i forgot..

They said if LSU wins next week, they will be definitely playing Bama no matter what. I have a feeling Arky only drops one spot or possibly two. I also think if LSU played Bama with the time off (a month off), Saban might figure out a way to beat LSU.
Saban might figure out a way to win? You're kidding right? He had Yankee Les Miles and the Bayou Bengals beat the 1st time if he didn't have a horrible kicker.

Did you even watch any highlights of the Bama/LSU game? The Bama kicker missed several field goals.
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Old 11-26-2011, 10:28 PM
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Saban might figure out a way to win? You're kidding right? He had Yankee Les Miles and the Bayou Bengals beat the 1st time if he didn't have a horrible kicker.

Did you even watch any highlights of the Bama/LSU game? The Bama kicker missed several field goals.

Yes, i did watch the first time they played and the Bama kicker missed several FGs. What i'm saying is that i think Bama can overcome their special teams play this time around to win it especially with the month layoff. Saban is a very good coach.
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