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Old 09-11-2007, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
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Yep, USC put a good arse wooping on us in that game, and they are a very storied program as well. Maybe next time we'll even up the score a little better. I hope the two make it to the Championship game this year.
They just might. Oklahoma looked tough vs. Miami and N. Texas (a team that had been bowling just a few years back). The Red River Rivalry will be interesting this year, always tough (well, except when you scored over 60 points vs. UT a few years point).
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Old 09-13-2007, 07:22 AM
 
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Default It will be a close one....Article explains how close it will git. lol

Church Deacon, OU Fan Tears ******* Of UT Fan In Bar Fight - Sports News Story - KXAS | Dallas
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Old 09-13-2007, 07:52 AM
 
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Cool There is a reason why Notre Dame is known for having the most titles.

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I have to be reading this wrong, but are you ribbing USC a little bit because they shared a title with LSU. Wasn't it the Sooners that lost in the title game that year anyway? So you definitely wouldn't have shared it. And wasn't it the Sooners that lost the following year to SC, hmm, what was that score again? Oh yeah, 55-19. Is it that same USC team that has a 6-2-1 record vs. the Sooners, a 28-7-2 record vs. Big 12 opponents, 7 Heisman Trophy winners (4 for OU) and of course 11, count em', 11 National Championships, 4 more than Oklahoma.

Now that seems much more funny to me.
This is really funny....Dont git me wrong, USC is one of the best. But.....



NCAA-Recognized Championships (since 1869)

1. Princeton 28 2. Yale 27 3. Notre Dame 20 4. Alabama 17 5. OKLAHOMA 15 6. Michigan 15 7. Southern Cal 15 8. Ohio State 14 9. Nebraska 9 10. Harvard 11 11. Pittsburgh 11


NCAA-Recognized Championships (since 1936)

1. OKLAHOMA 15 2. Notre Dame 14 3. Alabama 13 4. Ohio State 13 5. Nebraska 11 6. Southern Cal 10 7. Miami 8 8. Florida State 7 9. Tennessee 7 10. Texas 7




THE REAL DEAL.....

The AP introduced its poll in 1936.
AP, Coaches' & BCS

1. Notre Dame 8 2. OKLAHOMA 7 3. Alabama 7 4. Southern Cal 6 5. Miami 5 6. Nebraska 5 7. Ohio State 5
8. Minnesota 4 9. Michigan 3 10. Texas 3

Just the facts.....USC loves to share those titles...

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Old 09-13-2007, 04:22 PM
 
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Wow, I didn't know that HT. You learn something everyday. And by the end of this year, OU will probably add one more!
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Old 09-17-2007, 01:27 PM
 
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Why did Mizzou have to get OU this year instead of Texas? UGH!! Either way our D looks like swiss cheese, pretty sad. Sucks, when you have a once in a (my) lifetime offense. In any case, Nebraska is going to get stomped when they visit Columbia!
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Old 09-17-2007, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
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This is really funny....Dont git me wrong, USC is one of the best. But.....



NCAA-Recognized Championships (since 1869)

1. Princeton 28 2. Yale 27 3. Notre Dame 20 4. Alabama 17 5. OKLAHOMA 15 6. Michigan 15 7. Southern Cal 15 8. Ohio State 14 9. Nebraska 9 10. Harvard 11 11. Pittsburgh 11


NCAA-Recognized Championships (since 1936)

1. OKLAHOMA 15 2. Notre Dame 14 3. Alabama 13 4. Ohio State 13 5. Nebraska 11 6. Southern Cal 10 7. Miami 8 8. Florida State 7 9. Tennessee 7 10. Texas 7




THE REAL DEAL.....

The AP introduced its poll in 1936.
AP, Coaches' & BCS

1. Notre Dame 8 2. OKLAHOMA 7 3. Alabama 7 4. Southern Cal 6 5. Miami 5 6. Nebraska 5 7. Ohio State 5
8. Minnesota 4 9. Michigan 3 10. Texas 3

Just the facts.....USC loves to share those titles...
Wow, aren't you the little researcher. Way to pick and choose. Why didn't you include the Berryman poll in which Oklahoma was was voted #1 in 2003 despite getting crushed. I love how you included what polls and "recognized" champions you felt fit to include.

Now, if you go to the College Football Data Warehouse and other sites, they recognize the following polls/organizations that recognize championships:

1869-1882 National Championship Foundation
1883-1935 Helms Athletic Foundation
1919-1935 College Football Researches Association
1936- present AP
1950-present Coaches

Based on this, USC has 10, Oklahoma 7

Now many of the polls back then declared champions before the bowl games and there are polls that have SC winning the championship as far back as 1928 (although sharing it with the "Ramblin' Wreck" from Georgia Tech). Now, we can both sit here and declare each team has more than the other, but you and I know both that both Notre Lame and Bama are generally recognized by most to have more titles than both OU and SC (bama tied with SC according to some), and we both know those two aren't winning sh*t this year.

As far as the whole shared thing. Well, most sportswriters wrote for papers back east and were a bit bias (how else can one explain SC rolling into bama back in '78, taking them down and then sharing the title). Besides, before you go jabbering about shared titles, you do know SC and OU shared a title back in 1974.

Just the facts...

USC leads in the series with you 6-2-1 and even SoonerSports.com - Official Site of the Oklahoma Sooners recognizes only 7 championships for you.

***This is a No-Spin Thread***

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Old 09-18-2007, 10:37 PM
 
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Wow, aren't you the little researcher. Way to pick and choose. Why didn't you include the Berryman poll in which Oklahoma was was voted #1 in 2003 despite getting crushed. I love how you included what polls and "recognized" champions you felt fit to include.

Now, if you go to the College Football Data Warehouse and other sites, they recognize the following polls/organizations that recognize championships:

1869-1882 National Championship Foundation
1883-1935 Helms Athletic Foundation
1919-1935 College Football Researches Association
1936- present AP
1950-present Coaches

Based on this, USC has 10, Oklahoma 7

Now many of the polls back then declared champions before the bowl games and there are polls that have SC winning the championship as far back as 1928 (although sharing it with the "Ramblin' Wreck" from Georgia Tech). Now, we can both sit here and declare each team has more than the other, but you and I know both that both Notre Lame and Bama are generally recognized by most to have more titles than both OU and SC (bama tied with SC according to some), and we both know those two aren't winning sh*t this year.

As far as the whole shared thing. Well, most sportswriters wrote for papers back east and were a bit bias (how else can one explain SC rolling into bama back in '78, taking them down and then sharing the title). Besides, before you go jabbering about shared titles, you do know SC and OU shared a title back in 1974.

Just the facts...

USC leads in the series with you 6-2-1 and even SoonerSports.com - Official Site of the Oklahoma Sooners recognizes only 7 championships for you.

***This is a No-Spin Thread***
Now USC has 10 instead of 11??...Man...west coasters get confused. Just playin'. What does Notre Dame have since you seem to be the researcher...Just wanting more info..for real......USC leads..I could care less. Beafy Beach Boys. God I hope Stoops gets ahold of Carroll and..............



NCAA FOOTBALL TEAM WITH MOST CHAMPIONSHIP WINS
A variety of opinions exist as to which NCAA Football team can lay claim to the most National Titles.


That would be Notre Dame.

Alabama.

Princeton 17 times....

ALABAMA 12 CHAMPIONSHIPS

Yale has 18 titles since 1869. Princeton has 15, Notre Dame 11, Alabama 10.source: cfbdatawarehouse.com

Alabama has 12 official national championships and can easily claim 14, because there were a couple of years where we were undefeated but not champions.

The NCAA started recognizing championships in 1936. They did not name the champion, they just recognized who was named champion. If you count before 1936 to get the 11 and 12 that Alabama and Notre Dame have then you would have to count the 17 by princeton and the others by yale and so forth.

Alabama with six.

The University of Alabama officially credits itself with 12 national championships, as does Notre Dame

University of Alabama, 12 National Championships:1925, 1926, 1930, 1934, 1941, 1961, 1964, 1965, 1973, 1978, 1979, 1992

Until NCAA starts holding a Championship Game with a legitimate playoff leading up to it, there will never, never, never, be a true champion. So shut up and quit your freaking bickering.

Ohio State has the most recognizable national titles. All the other schools are debating on how many they won unofficially, Ohio State has 7 legitimate national titles. In the books though, Notre Dame is at the top with national titles.

Alabama has 12 national championships.(period) Notre Dame and Michigan are tied for second place with 11 championships apiece. Yale and Princeton can osculate my posterior.

The five schools who claim to have the most championships are: Princeton, Yale, Michigan, Notre Dame, Alabama,

The records I have found in different polls are as follows: 1869-1900 Yale had the most titles with 15 Princeton had 11 Michigan-0 ND-0 Bama-0

Then in 1901 the first bowl game was played between Michigan and Stanford 1901-1906: Yale-1 Princeton-2 Michigan-4 Alabama-0 ND-0

1906 saw the formation of the IAAUS the first organized college rules organization 1907-1910 Yale-2 all the other schools had none!

1910 is the formation of the NCAA. Primarily it was a sports round table for the different colleges who were members: 1911-1921

Princeton-1 Yale-1 ND-1 Michigan-1 Bama-0

1922 is when the modern version of the NCAA was formed. 1922-1935 Princeton-1 Yale-1 ND-3 Michigan-2 Bama-3

1936 sees the formation of the AP poll.

1936-1949 ND-4 Michigan-1 None of the other schools have a national championship in this time.

1950 sees the formation of the Consensus Poll National Champions. 1950-1972 ND-2 Bama-3 None of the other schools have a national championship in this time.

1973 is when the NCAA forms divisions ND-3 Mich-1 Bama-4 None of the other schools have a national championship in this time.

All of these schools claim to have more championships than are listed here, but just because I tell people and myself that I am the best does not make it true. These are figures based on actual polls and so depending on when you acknowledge the "official" start of a National Championship each school can accurately claim they have the most National Champion Titles! I agree with the statement that has never been a National Champion and never will be until there is a play-off system. Then maybe the SEC will get all the titles they have been crying that they deserve! But when will they require the athletes to know how to read more than the playbook. All of these schools except for Bama hold their athletes to strict academic requirements and unlike the schools in the SEC none of these schools create fake majors so their athletes can meet the NCAA eligibility requirements.


I would say Note Dame has won National Championship Only Offically with BCS and AP polls. Actually Norte Dame seriously had won 7 total title. Only in Football.

Even thought I hate 'Bama, they have definitely earned their way playing in the #1 conference in the country. So if you win to the championship in the SEC, you really are the best team in the nation.

NCAA-Recognized Championships (since 1869)
1. Princeton 28 2. Yale 27 3. Notre Dame 20 4. Alabama 17 5. OKLAHOMA 15 5. Michigan 15 5. Southern Cal 15 8. Ohio State 14 9. Nebraska 9 10. Harvard 11 10. Pittsburgh 11

NCAA-Recognized Championships (since 1936)* 1. OKLAHOMA 15 2. Notre Dame 14 3. Alabama 13 3. Ohio State 13 5. Nebraska 11 6. Southern Cal 10 7. Miami 8 8. Florida State 7 8. Tennessee 7 8. Texas 7




The AP introduced its poll in 1936.
AP, Coaches' & BCS 1. Notre Dame 8 2. OKLAHOMA 7 2. Alabama 7 4. Southern Cal 6 5. Miami 5 5. Nebraska 5 5. Ohio State 5 8. Minnesota 4 9. Michigan 3 9. Texas 3


NCAA lists 10 each for Alabama & Notre Dame




Whatever...Oklahoma certainly should claim more...its just interesting thats all..... If you now more info that comes from actual sources please tell...cant find em'.....


Here is a cute article....

USC Loses the Championship!
What will happen if Reggie Bush is declared ineligible?
By Daniel Engber
Posted Thursday, Jan. 25, 2007, at 6:58 PM ET
The federal government may have new, taped evidence that former USC football star Reggie Bush accepted cash and gifts while he was still a student. If so, he could be declared ineligible retroactively, in which case USC might have to forfeit its 2004 national championship as well as all its victories from the 2004 and 2005 seasons. Does it hurt a school to lose a game after the fact?

Only indirectly. The National Collegiate Athletics Association can impose several types of penalties when a college team breaks its rules. For example, a program may lose the right to grant athletic scholarships or play in the postseason. When it comes to light that a school used ineligible players for games that have already been played, the punishment often includes an order to "vacate" the results. That means the team must treat those games as if they never happened—they're stricken from the record. (In rare cases, the NCAA may demand a "forfeit," in which case the contested games are marked down as losses.)

The school's athletic department must revise all of its official publications to reflect this change, which can be costly. If the team had to vacate a league or conference championship, it would have to pull down commemorative banners and throw out any other associated publicity materials. Recruiters and fund-raisers would have to eliminate all mention of the retroactively erased season from their printed materials.


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A university might also be asked to give back some of the money it earned from the vacated games. A football team might have to turn over its television revenue from any bowl games it played in. Basketball teams that make it to the NCAA tournament are generally required to forfeit 90 percent of their earnings. When the University of Michigan got caught using ineligible players in the 1990s, the program was forced to take down its championship banners and give up revenue from three tournament appearances. The program did, however, get to keep the millions of dollars it made selling Michigan merchandise during the period.

The decision to alter the historical record can lead to confusing discrepancies. In general, the school that gets penalized must erase all of the affected games from its overall tally of wins and losses. (Ineligible players have their individual records cleared as well; teammates get to keep their stats.) But the team's opponents are under no obligation to update their records. This sort of fuzzy bookkeeping became a source of controversy as Texas Tech's Bob Knight approached the all-time record for Division I wins by a men's basketball coach.

Bonus Explainer: Will Reggie Bush have to give up his Heisman Trophy? The trustees who oversee the award haven't decided yet—up to now, no winner has ever been asked to return one. The trophy itself would be worth hundreds of thousands of dollars to a collector. (The government seized O.J. Simpson's award from 1968 and auctioned it off for $230,000.) But Bush won't be able to get that money no matter what happens: As of the late 1990s, all winners have had to sign away their right to sell the Heisman.
LOL...OJ BS....

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