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Old 02-02-2012, 08:43 PM
 
Location: The "Rock"
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If you read my whole post, you would see I agree with you about the "star" business.
i read it

just sounded like sarcasm to me... can't tell with you Texas folk
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Old 02-02-2012, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Ranking recruiting classes are stupid.... Boise has never had a top 50 class yet finishes in the top 10 annually.

Texas always has a top 5 class annually and finishes in the top 5 rarely.

go figure.
+1

I have two problems with recruiting rankings:
1) These kids are far from maturing;
2) They basically pay for their star ranking by participating in dumb camps. You cannot rank a player by how he performs drills. The only way to recruit is to watch a lot of game tape and talk to him, his teammates and coaches.
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Old 02-03-2012, 06:27 AM
 
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I have two problems with recruiting rankings:
1) These kids are far from maturing;
2) They basically pay for their star ranking by participating in dumb camps. You cannot rank a player by how he performs drills. The only way to recruit is to watch a lot of game tape and talk to him, his teammates and coaches.
i don't know much about this, firsthand --

but we (the gamecocks) signed a QB from Pennsylvania, Brendan Nosovitch. The kid was only a 3-star, but he had some big honors , like playing in the HS All American game, breaking records set by Dan Marino and Jim Kelly, etc., throwing for 12,000 career yards.

The word around the campfire was exactly what you're saying, that he didn't participate in these scouting camps, and that hurt his "star" ranking.
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Old 02-03-2012, 08:46 AM
 
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As long as they recruit guys who have the raw talent, that's what matters. The skill set is developed in college, and the intelligence is developed in the pros. Recruit the talent, but after that, it's what coaches and trainers can do with that talent that matters.
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Old 02-03-2012, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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As long as they recruit guys who have the raw talent, that's what matters. The skill set is developed in college, and the intelligence is developed in the pros. Recruit the talent, but after that, it's what coaches and trainers can do with that talent that matters.
And that's why Oklahoma's Stoops has the sight edge over Mack Brown.
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Old 02-08-2012, 11:05 AM
 
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While Star Rankings aren't completely useless (the ones at the top of the rankings normally at top on the field)

It's a buisness. And that includes on the media side, to get guys like us to watch ESPN and read Yahoo sports and such wondering about who has the best recruiting class. And like people said, you can't put too much faith in them.

Still like I said those on top....

Speaking of which, how about UCLA and Vandy surprising everybody. And Mizzou getting that one 5 star kid (I can't keep up with all of em)
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Old 02-08-2012, 04:56 PM
 
Location: OKIE-Ville
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While Star Rankings aren't completely useless (the ones at the top of the rankings normally at top on the field)

It's a buisness. And that includes on the media side, to get guys like us to watch ESPN and read Yahoo sports and such wondering about who has the best recruiting class. And like people said, you can't put too much faith in them.

Still like I said those on top....

Speaking of which, how about UCLA and Vandy surprising everybody. And Mizzou getting that one 5 star kid (I can't keep up with all of em)
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And Mizzou getting that one 5 star kid (I can't keep up with all of em)
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OU was next in line but we had so many receivers coming in I'm thinking that he really didn't want to compete. At Mizzou, he can get in the line up right away with little to no competition.
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Old 02-08-2012, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
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Yeah, star rankings are not the end all when it comes to excelling at the next level for sure (whether it is in college or NFL). I found this interesting and thought I'd pass it along. Here are the two rosters for the Giants and Pats with Rivals' star rankings.

Rivals.com Football Recruiting - Super Bowl rosters filled with underdog stories

With that being said, my Ducks already have a verbal from the first Rivals 2013 #1 rated running back- Thomas Tyner.

The boy is fast! And he is 215 lbs. Pretty impressive for a Sophomore.


Thomas Tyner runs a 10.38a 100 meter dash at Metro League track meet - YouTube

Yeah, not much competition in ol' Oregon

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Old 02-09-2012, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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10.38 100 meters?

Not bad at all. That would have gotten him 3rd place in the Texas HS track meet last year.

Darn fast in fact, especially if it translates well to "football" speed.
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