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Old 11-19-2012, 11:23 AM
 
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The implosion of the ACC has begun. UMD is just the beginning. So much for the so called stability ACC boosters thought they had. Even a 50 million exit fee can't keep teams in.
I beg to differ... the ACC is rather stable. VaTech, FSU and Clemson have basically said 'Thanks, but no thanks,' to the BigXII. The SEC and the BIGTen are the only conferences that could really take a school away, and even then there are limitations for various reasons (i.e. UNC wouldnt go to SEC because of academics, etc.)

Im thinking the ACC will actually become quite stable, and very soon. Once the Big East no longer exists they will become the defacto super conference of the East. ND is already signed on as a non-football member, and imagine this... The ACC takes UConn, and NAVY from the Big East, and gets ND as the 16th school. An alignment of [ ND, BC, Navy, Pitt, Miami FL, GAtech, Cuse, UConn ] seems like it might be quite appealing to ND giving them several traditional rivals schedule guarantees every year. ACC might even screw over UConn and take Army over them just to lockup ND. (Plus they'll own the Army-Navy Game).

Maryland leaving doesn't really change much, even though they were a charter member of the ACC, they were of marginal importance (sans academics) to the conference as a whole.
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Old 11-19-2012, 12:01 PM
 
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I beg to differ... the ACC is rather stable. VaTech, FSU and Clemson have basically said 'Thanks, but no thanks,' to the BigXII. The SEC and the BIGTen are the only conferences that could really take a school away, and even then there are limitations for various reasons (i.e. UNC wouldnt go to SEC because of academics, etc.)

Im thinking the ACC will actually become quite stable, and very soon. Once the Big East no longer exists they will become the defacto super conference of the East. ND is already signed on as a non-football member, and imagine this... The ACC takes UConn, and NAVY from the Big East, and gets ND as the 16th school. An alignment of [ ND, BC, Navy, Pitt, Miami FL, GAtech, Cuse, UConn ] seems like it might be quite appealing to ND giving them several traditional rivals schedule guarantees every year. ACC might even screw over UConn and take Army over them just to lockup ND. (Plus they'll own the Army-Navy Game).

Maryland leaving doesn't really change much, even though they were a charter member of the ACC, they were of marginal importance (sans academics) to the conference as a whole.
Big 12 turned down FSU's and Clemson's request to join but in the future may change their mind. SEC might also raid it. The ACC has become the Big east part II and remember what happened to the big east? Picking up UConn or Big E schools that suck in football won't help the ACC. Like everyone predicted the rats are dropping ship.
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Old 11-19-2012, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Fort Mill, SC
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Big 12 turned down FSU's and Clemson's request to join but in the future may change their mind. SEC might also raid it. The ACC has become the Big east part II and remember what happened to the big east? Picking up UConn or Big E schools that suck in football won't help the ACC. Like everyone predicted the rats are dropping ship.
So you returned since your team is no better than the Marshalls of the world. FSU and Clemson wanted nothing to do with the Big 12 Track Meet conference. Give it up. I gave you actual proof in earlier threads.

As for Maryland... Who cares. I am surprised the B10 wanted them since their athletics are mediocre and DCs market doesn't care for Maryland. The ACC will still keep that market with UVA and VT.
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Old 11-19-2012, 12:48 PM
 
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So you returned since your team is no better than the Marshalls of the world. FSU and Clemson wanted nothing to do with the Big 12 Track Meet conference. Give it up. I gave you actual proof in earlier threads.

As for Maryland... Who cares. I am surprised the B10 wanted them since their athletics are mediocre and DCs market doesn't care for Maryland. The ACC will still keep that market with UVA and VT.
Ha! You owe me an apology as I was right about the ACC. FSU and Clemson tried to get out and now UMD has been raided. The ACC can't even hold UMD pathetic. Not even a 50 million exit fee stops teams from leaving the ACC. The first domino has fallen and the ACC is ripe for the plucking. U mad?
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Old 11-19-2012, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Fort Mill, SC
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Ha! You owe me an apology as I was right about the ACC. FSU and Clemson tried to get out and now UMD has been raided. The ACC can't even hold UMD pathetic. Not even a 50 million exit fee stops teams from leaving the ACC. The first domino has fallen and the ACC is ripe for the plucking. U mad?
Just like what happened to the Big 12 when Colorado got plucked, right... You havent been right on anything since you arrived to these boards. West Virginia is a huge joke. A losing record. No sight of getting better. This while playing in a conference who doesnt play defense.

The ACC will still be united by start of next season. The rumors of UNC is ridiculous.
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:48 AM
 
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I view The addition of Maryland as an investment the BigTen thinks will pay off eventually, especially once Maryland has access to the BigTen resources. They will go from athletic department budget shortfalls to $10s of millions surplus. Look how much the schools (not necessarily the football teams) have improved in the BigTen over the last 20 years. basically all of them have grown faster than the national average, improved their academic rankings and prestige faster than average, and have built/expanded mega-campuses on football's dime.
My assumption is that both Rutgers and Maryland are about to have a lot more to invest in the campus and sports programs, and along with a bit higher national attention will garner more applications, students, and then talented athletes. There growth will feedback into the conference pooled assets, and will pay off for the BigTen relatively quickly.
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Old 11-20-2012, 10:03 AM
 
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I view The addition of Maryland as an investment the BigTen thinks will pay off eventually, especially once Maryland has access to the BigTen resources. They will go from athletic department budget shortfalls to $10s of millions surplus. Look how much the schools (not necessarily the football teams) have improved in the BigTen over the last 20 years. basically all of them have grown faster than the national average, improved their academic rankings and prestige faster than average, and have built/expanded mega-campuses on football's dime.
My assumption is that both Rutgers and Maryland are about to have a lot more to invest in the campus and sports programs, and along with a bit higher national attention will garner more applications, students, and then talented athletes. There growth will feedback into the conference pooled assets, and will pay off for the BigTen relatively quickly.
Big 10 just took a big portion of the DC and NYC market too. They could capture the whole northeast if they wanted.
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Old 11-20-2012, 10:40 AM
 
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I think the move has little to do with athletics. What Maryland really wanted is access to and membership in the Committee on Institutional Cooperation (CIC), a B1G academic research consortium. The BIG $$$ is in research, as Penn State discovered. Maryland conducts substantial research in the physical sciences and B1G wanted access to the Baltimore/DC market. So it's a perfect fit.

As for football, there are probably 100,000 B1G graduates in the greater DMV area. So Maryland will rely on the opponents to fill Byrd stadium.
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Old 11-20-2012, 10:46 AM
 
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Ha! You owe me an apology as I was right about the ACC. FSU and Clemson tried to get out and now UMD has been raided. The ACC can't even hold UMD pathetic. Not even a 50 million exit fee stops teams from leaving the ACC. The first domino has fallen and the ACC is ripe for the plucking. U mad?
UMD "raided"? What are you smoking?

You need to quit constantly trying to start something. It's very immature.
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Old 11-20-2012, 10:49 AM
 
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Big 12 turned down FSU's and Clemson's request to join but in the future may change their mind. SEC might also raid it. The ACC has become the Big east part II and remember what happened to the big east? Picking up UConn or Big E schools that suck in football won't help the ACC. Like everyone predicted the rats are dropping ship.
Stop lying...the Big 12 DID NOT turn down FSU or Clemson - you are totally making that up.

We'll see what happens to the ACC. I'm pretty sure your predictions are tainted by your jealosy and hatred because the ACC wouldn't allow your pathetic team in. You are so obvious...it's very easy to read between the lies.
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