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Old 01-24-2013, 12:14 AM
 
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The problem is nobody cares about ACC football. That is why you dont make any money, and everyone is trying to get out including FSU.
The problem with the ACC is that it has a commissioner who is not capable of running a conference successfully in this cutthroat era of college football, just like former Big East Commissioner Mike Tranghese. Swofford was one step ahead of Tranghese but is two steps behind Slive, Scott and Delaney.
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Old 01-24-2013, 05:26 AM
 
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The top administrators at the University of Maryland System are from B1G. These administrators brought in Wallace Loh from the University of Iowa to become President of University of Maryland College Park for the primary purpose of moving the school to B1G.

Contrary to what was reported in the media, the financial crisis at Maryland's athletic department wasn't as severe as stated. Most of the debt was long term in nature, and there was enough funds to pay principal plus interest. The real issue is why the athletic department wasn't very successful in its fund raising activities, in light of the fact that the school just successfully completed its campaign to raise $1 billion? I get the impression that the "crisis" was fabricated. The B1G administrators wanted access to CIC and the research dollars associated with being a CIC member.
FSU also voted against the increased exit fee.
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Old 01-24-2013, 05:27 AM
 
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The problem with the ACC is that it has a commissioner who is not capable of running a conference successfully in this cutthroat era of college football, just like former Big East Commissioner Mike Tranghese. Swofford was one step ahead of Tranghese but is two steps behind Slive, Scott and Delaney.
He made poor choices for expansion. I cant find him for brining in Miami at the time, but BC? Then when the conference was in trouble they brought in Syracuse and Pitt?
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:37 AM
 
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FSU also voted against the increased exit fee.
FSU voted against the higher fee because it thought the increase was punitive. Maryland, otoh, already had plans to move at the time of the vote.
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:13 PM
 
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FSU voted against the higher fee because it thought the increase was punitive. Maryland, otoh, already had plans to move at the time of the vote.
Of course they voted against it. They are trying to leave.but yeah they thought it was punitive . Whatever they say.
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:54 PM
 
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FSU is focusing on that. The problem is most of the ACC isn't. They are a decent enough team but they can't carry the conference. That is why FSU tried to leave for the Big 12 along with Clemson. They were tired of Tobacco road calling the shots and putting football on the side.
I think the Big 12 takes a chance and takes both schools. Looking at the landscape who else could the Big 12 in reality get that are better than either school?

Louisville?
Houston?
Air Force?
SMU?
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Old 01-24-2013, 02:13 PM
 
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I think the Big 12 takes a chance and takes both schools. Looking at the landscape who else could the Big 12 in reality get that are better than either school?

Louisville?
Houston?
Air Force?
SMU?
Virginia Tech and NC State should definitely be considered by the Big XII to round the eastern rivals for West Virginia. Both will be courted by the SEC soon enough when North Carolina says thanks but no thanks to Slive.
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Old 01-24-2013, 02:38 PM
 
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I don't think Big 12 needs to expand.

Only if it helps secure the conference from future raids.

If they did need to expand than VT is a must grab. SEC is rumored to be interested in them. Big 12 will get sloppy thirds after SEC and B1G.

Still would prefer to stay at 10 if possible.
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Old 01-24-2013, 04:16 PM
 
Location: OKIE-Ville
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I don't think Big 12 needs to expand.

Only if it helps secure the conference from future raids.

If they did need to expand than VT is a must grab. SEC is rumored to be interested in them. Big 12 will get sloppy thirds after SEC and B1G.

Still would prefer to stay at 10 if possible.
I hear ya.

Looking down the corridor of time, however, the Big XII is pretty much guaranteeing that it will not be a conference in the future (in the next 20 yrs or so) if it chooses not to expand. While making more money now sounds great to the 10 members of the Big XII, eventually we're gonna get left in the dust if we don't expand at some point.....and if Bowlsby is reactive instead of proactive, we will really have to lower our standards to fill out the 12/14/16 team roster.

After the grant of rights runs its course, OU and Texas will be shopping around and the Big XII would go belly up for good. I would prefer to add teams now (like the other major conferences B1G/SEC/PAC) and at least get to 12 or 14. I'm not holding my breath though. The Big XII brass has shown its foolery on several occasions.
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Old 01-24-2013, 05:37 PM
 
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Virginia Tech and NC State should definitely be considered by the Big XII to round the eastern rivals for West Virginia. Both will be courted by the SEC soon enough when North Carolina says thanks but no thanks to Slive.
IMO, I think that.....

Va Tech and UVA go Big Ten as a package deal.

UNC and NC State are SEC bound as a package deal.

The Big Ten gets the prized DC market, and the SEC expands into North Carolina.
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