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Old 02-19-2013, 04:58 PM
 
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I definitely couldn't ever see Clemson in the SEC but I would think that Florida would be intelligent enough to realize that they would benefit from their in-state rival being in the same conference.
FSU serves no benefit to UF and very little to the SEC. FSU would love to be in the SEC as it would do wonders for their program. It does not bring them a new TV market and they have a pretty average fanbase. Clemson has a better following.
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Old 02-19-2013, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Fort Mill, SC
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FSU serves no benefit to UF and very little to the SEC. FSU would love to be in the SEC as it would do wonders for their program. It does not bring them a new TV market and they have a pretty average fanbase. Clemson has a better following.
Continue to hate... I love checking out MizzouNation on ESPN... oh yeah it doesn't exist.

How about your average fanbase who didn't even show up to the Sugar bowl... FSU showed up.
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Old 02-20-2013, 05:23 AM
 
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Continue to hate... I love checking out MizzouNation on ESPN... oh yeah it doesn't exist.

How about your average fanbase who didn't even show up to the Sugar bowl... FSU showed up.
When UF sells season tickets for $120 you let me know.
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Old 02-21-2013, 08:58 AM
 
Location: OKIE-Ville
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FSU serves no benefit to UF and very little to the SEC. FSU would love to be in the SEC as it would do wonders for their program. It does not bring them a new TV market and they have a pretty average fanbase. Clemson has a better following.
This is good news for the Big XII. Bowlsby (STAND up to Deloss Dodds & Texas) better get going on expansion before FSU is lured into the B1G!
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Old 02-21-2013, 02:09 PM
 
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This is good news for the Big XII. Bowlsby (STAND up to Deloss Dodds & Texas) better get going on expansion before FSU is lured into the B1G!
FSU doesn't have the academics they want.
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Old 02-21-2013, 09:42 PM
 
Location: OKIE-Ville
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FSU doesn't have the academics they want.
More good news. Hope you're right.

I had read somewhere that Delaney had floated the possibility of FSU membership into the B1G if FSU would commit to a plan of garnering AAU status.

More important than making the money with quality additions into the Big XII (such as Clemson/FSU/VT/NC State) is the issue of winning. The Big XII must get top-notch recruits like the SEC has for the last several years to compete.

I've come to believe quite strongly that the only way that the Big XII is going to have another national champion any time in the near future is if it gets a footprint into the fertile recruiting grounds of the Deep South. Getting recruits from Texas (and to a much lesser extent Oklahoma) won't cut it anymore. Gotta get down there and rub elbows with those athletes so the recruits start coming our way over here in the Southwest.
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Old 02-22-2013, 05:06 AM
 
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FSU doesn't even talk about AAU like they used to. They are in real trouble coming up as Rick Scott has proposed to give only UF millions more in funding to reach top 10 public.
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Old 02-22-2013, 11:01 AM
 
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Texas, Oklahoma and Kansas should go to B1G as a package deal. That would give B1G access to the south plus quality football and large fan bases that both Maryland and Rutgers just don't bring.

The SEC could pick up Oklahoma State and Kansas State, also two quality football programs that would contribute to the strengthening of the SEC brand.
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Old 02-22-2013, 01:24 PM
 
Location: OKIE-Ville
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Texas, Oklahoma and Kansas should go to B1G as a package deal. That would give B1G access to the south plus quality football and large fan bases that both Maryland and Rutgers just don't bring.

The SEC could pick up Oklahoma State and Kansas State, also two quality football programs that would contribute to the strengthening of the SEC brand.
I hope Oklahoma/Texas never go to the B1G. That would be worse than my former worst case scenario = the PAC. At least the Oklahoma/Texas schools would be able to retain some of its cultural/regional distinctiveness if it went to the PAC in a "pod" like system of the conference. B1G membership would destroy that; no, I don't like that at all.

Best Case Scenario (in order)
1. Big XII expands to 16 by adding FSU/Clemson/V-Tech/NC-State/Miami/G-Tech (or maybe go back after Louisville before it's solidly in the ACC)
2. Big XII expands to 14 by adding FSU/Clemson/V-Tech/NC-State
3. Big XII expands to 12 by adding FSU/Clemson

Of those listed, it seems like the 3rd option is the only one that might have a snowball's chance.

Whatever the Big XII does, it MUST expand to the East if it wants to remain relevant and be a legitimate conference in 15 years. Otherwise, after the Grant of Rights is over the SEC/B1G/PAC will simply gobble up remaining teams. It seems like West Virginia and Oklahoma have been the most outspoken about wanting to expand. Hopefully, Oliver Luck and WV were promised some eastern partners eventually.....otherwise their presence in the conference makes no sense whatsoever. Let's hope these top level administrators/presidents/AD's in the Big XII are earning their keep by having this mapped out for the Big XII's future.

I can't stand it that the Big XII is the smallest major conference. I don't care about the round robin format; and, most Sooner and Texas fans I know don't either. We've gotta expand, get some balanced divisions, and start playing a conference championship game again (what we had long before B1G/PAC! in the first place). The Big XII has to get back on par with the other Big 3. Anything less will mean the Big XII's demise sometime within the next 12-15 years.
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Old 02-22-2013, 04:46 PM
 
Location: The "Rock"
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Texas, Oklahoma and Kansas should go to B1G as a package deal. That would give B1G access to the south plus quality football and large fan bases that both Maryland and Rutgers just don't bring.

The SEC could pick up Oklahoma State and Kansas State, also two quality football programs that would contribute to the strengthening of the SEC brand.
Oklahoma is not an AAU member...
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