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Old 10-13-2012, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Fort Mill, SC
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When you don't play defense, you can't win. When an opposing qb each week looks like a Heisman candidate, you aren't good. The Big 12 doesn't know how to play defense yet Texas Tech showed up when they needed to. The cupcake fought back and won 49-14. Ouch!
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Old 10-13-2012, 05:23 PM
 
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When you don't play defense, you can't win. When an opposing qb each week looks like a Heisman candidate, you aren't good. The Big 12 doesn't know how to play defense yet Texas Tech showed up when they needed to. The cupcake fought back and won 49-14. Ouch!
Nice try but TT is anything but a cupcake. Big 12 is a real football conference where anything goes, unlike the ACC where 2-3 mediocre teams can consistently win it.

Ncopus if FSU lost to a good team like Florida I would give them respect, but the fact is you had only 1 tough game, and you lost to a cupcake. You had a free pass to the NC and blew it.

A team like TT would dominate the ACC, along with WVU, UT, KSU, and OKLA.

Dont worry the ACC is not overrated. Everybody expects your conference to suck year after year. However, people expected FSU to be able to carry the biggest cupcake conference, and you couldnt even do that.

At the end of the day WVU and Big 12 get respect. ACC gets NONE, and FSU only gets a smidgen more than the ACC.

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Old 10-13-2012, 05:44 PM
 
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I'll solve it! With the exception of a handful of teams, the Big 12 and ACC play crappy defense.
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Old 10-13-2012, 05:47 PM
 
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Nice try but TT is anything but a cupcake. Big 12 is a real football conference where anything goes, unlike the ACC where 2-3 mediocre teams can consistently win it.

Ncopus if FSU lost to a good team like Florida I would give them respect, but the fact is you had only 1 tough game, and you lost to a cupcake. You had a free pass to the NC and blew it.

A team like TT would dominate the ACC, along with WVU, UT, KSU, and OKLA.

Dont worry the ACC is not overrated. Everybody expects your conference to suck year after year. However, people expected FSU to be able to carry the biggest cupcake conference, and you couldnt even do that.

At the end of the day WVU and Big 12 get respect. ACC gets NONE, and FSU only gets a smidgen more than the ACC.

Nice diversion but this thread is about how bad West Virginia is and how much a cupcake Texas Tech is.

Let's see Texas Tech so far this year...
Wins over 2 I-AA schools (Northwestern St and Texas St... oh yeah I think they got moved up) and the worst I-A school (New Mexico). The other win against the Big 12 whipping boy Iowa St. They were hammered by Oklahoma. Yes, cupcake at its finest.

Seth Doege has 150 yards more than any of the other teams he faced including all those AA schools. Funny that New Mexico posted just as many points against them as West Virginia did.

As for getting respect... on the east coast, we barely realize the Big 12 even exists. You guys lost and most announcers barely mentioned it. The Red River Rivalry use to make the 8pm game with the Game Day Crew there. This year they got slotted to a noon time slot (non-primetime) and the Game Day Crew showed up to Notre Dame/Stanford. That sure sounds like respect.
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Old 10-13-2012, 05:54 PM
 
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Nice diversion but this thread is about how bad West Virginia is and how much a cupcake Texas Tech is.

Let's see Texas Tech so far this year...
Wins over 2 I-AA schools (Northwestern St and Texas St... oh yeah I think they got moved up) and the worst I-A school (New Mexico). The other win against the Big 12 whipping boy Iowa St. They were hammered by Oklahoma. Yes, cupcake at its finest.

Seth Doege has 150 yards more than any of the other teams he faced including all those AA schools. Funny that New Mexico posted just as many points against them as West Virginia did.

As for getting respect... on the east coast, we barely realize the Big 12 even exists. You guys lost and most announcers barely mentioned it. The Red River Rivalry use to make the 8pm game with the Game Day Crew there. This year they got slotted to a noon time slot (non-primetime) and the Game Day Crew showed up to Notre Dame/Stanford. That sure sounds like respect.
Texas Tech had #1 defense in the country. Texas Tech is anything but a cupcake. Big 12 does have a very few cupcakes, Texas tech not among them, unlike the ACC which is ALL cupcakes.

In the East coast everyone knows the ACC sucks. West coast and Midwest too. They might not be the SEC, but they are the 2nd best football conference. ACC is 6th, after the Big East. So it is easy to play in a cupcake conference, lose to cupcakes, and criticize good teams but you really have no right.

The loss was disappointing, but I am not ashamed about as we played a good Big 12 team. If WVU lost to an ACC team this year, any ACC team, I would be ashamed. FSU should be ashamed for failing to easily dominate a weak conference. Everybody expected you to win an easy conference, but you failed. Meanwhile, everyone expected WVU to lose a game, or two in the Big 12, as we are actually good.

That is why you fail nocopus. We play as expected in a good conference, while FSU underachieves in the easiest conference.

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Old 10-13-2012, 05:55 PM
 
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I'll solve it! With the exception of a handful of teams, the Big 12 and ACC play crappy defense.
I agree about the Big 12, but the ACC doesnt have any exceptions.

They ALL suck in defense, offense, and special teams.

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Old 10-13-2012, 06:05 PM
 
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Texas Tech had #1 defense in the country. Texas Tech is anything but a cupcake. Big 12 does have a very few cupcakes, Texas tech not among them, unlike the ACC which is ALL cupcakes.

In the East coast everyone knows the ACC sucks. West coast and Midwest too. They might not be the SEC, but they are the 2nd best football conference. ACC is 6th, after the Big East. So it is easy to play in a cupcake conference, lose to cupcakes, and criticize good teams but you really have no right.

The loss was disappointing, but I am not ashamed about as we played a good Big 12 team. If WVU lost to an ACC team this year, any ACC team, I would be ashamed. FSU should be ashamed for failing to easily dominate a weak conference. Everybody expected you to win an easy conference, but you failed. Meanwhile, everyone expected WVU to lose a game, or two in the Big 12, as we are actually good.

That is why you fail nocopus. We play as expected in a good conference, while FSU underachieves in the easiest conference.

You obvious have your Big 12 blinders on.

Texas Tech as the #1 defense in the country?!?!?!? That is Alabama son. Texas Tech isn't even in the Top 20.

2nd best football conference?!?!??!? Come on bro. That is the Pac 12 this year. The Big 12 number 2 and 3 both got HAMMERED and STEAMROLLED today i.e. West Virginia and Texas.

As for FSU, it is only consider underachieving since analysts believed we could take it all (due to our loaded talent). Analysts didn't believe West Virginia could thus it isn't underachieving for them because it was expected that they would lose due to that crappy crappy defense they run. I have seen a track meet that had more defense than West Virginia can run.
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Old 10-13-2012, 06:12 PM
 
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Lol, the Pac-12 is not the second best conference.


And you do know that Oklahoma won right? So the number three team won in a route.
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Old 10-13-2012, 06:13 PM
 
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You obvious have your Big 12 blinders on.

Texas Tech as the #1 defense in the country?!?!?!? That is Alabama son. Texas Tech isn't even in the Top 20.

2nd best football conference?!?!??!? Come on bro. That is the Pac 12 this year. The Big 12 number 2 and 3 both got HAMMERED and STEAMROLLED today i.e. West Virginia and Texas.

As for FSU, it is only consider underachieving since analysts believed we could take it all (due to our loaded talent). Analysts didn't believe West Virginia could thus it isn't underachieving for them because it was expected that they would lose due to that crappy crappy defense they run. I have seen a track meet that had more defense than West Virginia can run.
FSU was over hyped because they had a cupcake conference and even a mediocre team can carry it.

Big 12 is still 2nd best after SEC. If FSU was in the big 12, which is what they wanted before they were rejected, they would be near the bottom. If WVU was in ACC everyone would except them to win every game. ACC is a glorified HS conference. FSU is not even good enough to win it. It is like getting a pass go card in monopoly and being too bad to pick up your own piece and move it to go.

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Old 10-13-2012, 06:22 PM
 
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Lol, the Pac-12 is not the second best conference.


And you do know that Oklahoma won right? So the number three team won in a route.
Oregon might make the title, the Big 12 won't come close. Book it. OOC Pac-12 has a better resume than the Big 12 had.

Oklahoma looks like the best team in the Big 12, they are carrying a loss, and still have a date with Te'o.

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FSU was over hyped because they had a cupcake conference and even a mediocre team can carry it.
We were hyped even with West Virginia on schedule. I guess that made them a cupcake too. Huh

Again, stop trying to derail the thread. This is about how much the suck West Virginia is.
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