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Old 04-26-2013, 02:06 PM
 
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The ACC is thinking outside the box:

ACC thinking 'across the pond,' might play games in Europe - CBSSports.com

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“We need to think big,” Swofford said. “One of the things we brought up to our schools last week was we may play football, we may play basketball in Europe. Across the pond, so to speak.”
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Old 04-26-2013, 02:14 PM
 
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Basketball teams already take trips like these.
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Old 04-26-2013, 07:54 PM
 
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FSU is not much of a winner here. They had no choice of course but we will see how much you like it when you see how much UF gets in revenue when the new SEC deal is released.
Maybe they can use that revenue to buy the players scooters
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:18 PM
 
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http://www.tallahassee.com/article/2...nclick_check=1

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Since that time, Barron and FSU officials apparently have done just that, including exploring the possibility of joining the likes of Florida, Alabama and LSU in the SEC.

While it’s difficult to confirm how far those talks advanced, FSU officials came away with the understanding that the SEC saw little financial incentive to adding the Seminoles. Bringing on FSU would neither expand television markets nor open recruiting territories.
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Old 04-28-2013, 11:49 AM
 
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Conference realignment winners and losers. This could all change in time. A great decision in 2013 might look so good in 2033. We'll see.


Winning schools:
1. Utah/ TCU- joined BCS conferences and got out of the terrible MWC tv deal.
3. Rutgers- left a dead conference and increased exposure, payday and stability.
4. Pitt/Syar/Louisville- See Rutgers
5. WVU- See Rutgers, but on an island and in less than stable Big 12.
6. Maryland- Increased exposure, joined the CIC, bigger payday, home sell-outs for Michigan, OSU, PSU games.
7. Colorado/Nebraska/Missouri/aTm- Left for more stable conferences and better exposure. Out from under Austin’s influence.
8. BYU- Gained independence for football (one of the only schools that can do it). Gets home games on BYU tv. Only question is can they fill the schedule with quality opponents and get good bowl games?
9. Notre Dame- Maintained independence. Got stability and east coast games for Olympic sports. Fills out the fb schedule with quality ACC opponents.
10. Iowa State, Kansas State, Baylor, Texas Tech- Had nowhere to go if the Big 12 imploded. Unless they wanted in a depleted MWC or the MAC.
11. Wake Forest, Boston College- See Iowa State.


Losing schools:
1-5. Connecticut- Basketball powerhouse getting better at football. No BCS conference. ACC, Big Ten or SEC will never take them.
6. Cincinnati/South Florida- Same as UConn. Without the athletic history.
7. Idaho or Idaho St. Whichever one is going independent.- Good luck getting non-conference opponents to travel to Idaho.
8. Boise St.- Could compete in a BCS conference. Will likely never get the chance.


Conference winners:
1. Big Ten- Now the predominant football conference of 14 states plus D.C. and lower NY state, a footprint with just over 100 million people. It’s essentially captured a new area–the Mid-Atlantic, minus Virginia–without overextending its boundaries either geographically or culturally. Added millions of tv sets for its network on basic cable and ESPN games. Gained 6 new U.S. Senators in D.C. Keeps Penn State from jumping. Added conference title game in football. Adds men’s lacrosse, which almost breaks even moneywise. Added football king in Nebraska.

2. PAC- Gets football title game and tv network. Made Big 12 less stable for future expansion and could possibly add Texas in 10 years or so.

3. SEC- Got the St Louis, KC and a good chunk of Texas markets. Opened up recruiting in Texas. Added 2 academic schools to go along with UF, Vandy, UGA and Tennesse. Makes the SEC much better academically. Got 4 new U.S. Senators to help get research dollars for new academic consortium. Schools fit geographically and culturally.

4. ACC- Added some decent schools. Has most of the east coast minus Maryland, NJ and some of NY. Proved to SEC and Big Ten they are much more stable than originally thought. Lost long time member in Maryland.


Conference losers:
1. WAC- no longer exists
2. Big East football- Relegated to mid-major status.
3. Big 12- Managed to stay together for a few more years. Got nice pay increase for their tv contract. Will likely be poached by Big Ten and PAC 12 when grant of rights runs out in a decade. SEC might invade also if they can get Texas.


Other big-time winners:
1. The “new” Big East basketball schools: Villanova, Georgetown, St John's etc.. Still a great league. More tv money. Don’t have to deal with state schools that focus on football. They have more control of their own destinies.
2. Butler, Xavier and anyone else invited to the new Big East basketball. Moved from minor conferences to the big time. More tournament money. A conference that likely will always be stable and untouchable.
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Old 04-28-2013, 04:59 PM
 
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Can you be the predominant football conference if you don't get players drafted in the NFL or win championships? I'd call them the paper champs.
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Old 04-28-2013, 09:55 PM
 
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Can you be the predominant football conference if you don't get players drafted in the NFL or win championships? I'd call them the paper champs.
Yawn.

It's hard to have players drafted when you have the least amount of players available. BT is returning more starters next year than any other conference.

And re-read the post. I was referring to the 14 states the Big Ten is currently in.

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Old 04-29-2013, 05:48 AM
 
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Yawn.

It's hard to have players drafted when you have the least amount of players available. BT is returning more starters next year than any other conference.

And re-read the post. I was referring to the 14 states the Big Ten is currently in.

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Just stating facts. Returning starters that won't get drafted does not mean much.

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Old 04-29-2013, 08:05 PM
 
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Conference realignment winners and losers. This could all change in time. A great decision in 2013 might look so good in 2033. We'll see.

Winning schools:
5. WVU- See Rutgers, but on an island and in less than stable Big 12.
Easily the biggest loser in the conference realignment, even over UConn. Their travel costs are through the roof. There is no team in sight that the Big 12 will pick up to give them relief like they had hoped prior to GOR by the ACC. All the while they have got a trashing in their athletics. It just gets worse from this point forward.

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Conference winners:
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1. Big Ten- Now the predominant football conference of 14 states plus D.C. and lower NY state, a footprint with just over 100 million people. It’s essentially captured a new area–the Mid-Atlantic, minus Virginia–without overextending its boundaries either geographically or culturally. Added millions of tv sets for its network on basic cable and ESPN games. Gained 6 new U.S. Senators in D.C. Keeps Penn State from jumping. Added conference title game in football. Adds men’s lacrosse, which almost breaks even moneywise. Added football king in Nebraska.
LOL... The Big 10 lost out on it's long fight to gain Notre Dame. At the same time, their football programs produce an all time low last year. PS I live in one of those other states (i.e. a non B10 state) and B10 Network is already part of my basic cable package; it's been that way for a couple years now. Congrats on them gaining a new sport!

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2. PAC- Gets football title game and tv network. Made Big 12 less stable for future expansion and could possibly add Texas in 10 years or so.
Outside the nice paycheck, they actually did terrible. Colorado is practically a Div 2 school today. Utah has slowly gone back to mediocrisy. They picked these two over the two they should have gone for i.e. Boise St and San Diego St.

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3. SEC- Got the St Louis, KC and a good chunk of Texas markets. Opened up recruiting in Texas. Added 2 academic schools to go along with UF, Vandy, UGA and Tennesse. Makes the SEC much better academically. Got 4 new U.S. Senators to help get research dollars for new academic consortium. Schools fit geographically and culturally.
Do you really believe that SEC schools weren't already recruiting in Texas... If so, you are really kidding yourself.

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4. ACC- Added some decent schools. Has most of the east coast minus Maryland, NJ and some of NY. Proved to SEC and Big Ten they are much more stable than originally thought. Lost long time member in Maryland.
Louisville athletically is better than Maryland was. Pitt is a historical. Syracuse is a national basketball powerhouse. Both fit academically. And then there is Notre Dame. They might not be fully in but they will one day. GOR solified the league. The league is in development for their own network i.e. restructuring their deal. ACC on the upswing.
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Old 04-30-2013, 06:50 AM
 
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Just stating facts. Returning starters that won't get drafted does not mean much.
This is a thread about conference realignment/ACC rights.

You come on here and talk **** about the Big Ten?

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