8 Team Playoff (Ohio, teams, Big Ten, conferences)

[jasomm]

A lot of people have called for an 8-team playoff, and many including Texas AD DeLoss Dodd, think the upcoming 4-team system is a stepping stone to that 8-team playoff.

There have been all sorts of discussions about how a real playoff system and conference realignment affect each other, but now that conference realignment has mostly settled down, and the 4-team system is figured out, it is worth looking at what the next thing will be to upset the system. Will it be situations with the "5th team" left out of the playoff? Will there be a push to expand the playoff for more money? Will football's mid-major conferences play a role?

Also I'm wondering about what everyone's perfect 8-team play system looks like and how it works. Or even if you think that is better or worse than a 4-team system. How long do you think the 4-team system will last?


For the cases like AD Dodd, Texas, and the Big12 Im wondering this: if everyone decides to go to 8-team with the most common idea for seeding (5 automatic spots for the power conferences, 3 at large), but the power conference must all have 14 teams, does the Big12 opt out of the automatic bid for more money? Or would they add 4 lesser-teams to the conference to get that bid?

[UTHORNS96]

To heck with all this automatic bid business. Take the top 8 teams and be done with it.

[ckhthankgod]

Originally Posted by UTHORNS96

To heck with all this automatic bid business. Take the top 8 teams and be done with it.

I agree and I'd even say to go to 12 teams with the top 4 teams having a bye.

[OhioRules]

Haven't even started the 4 team deal and people are already calling for 8? lols.

This aint the pros. The difference from the top 2-3 teams to number 8 is enormous. Numbers 5-8 have virtually no chance in a playoff setting against the top teams. This aint basketball where a higher seeded team has a decent chance.

No reason to go past 4.

Though it probably will go to 8 eventually.

And they need to play 2 weeks after the regular season. And change the time when coaches switch schools. Until then any playoff/bowl game is nothing more than an exhibition.

[Toxic Toast]

Originally Posted by OhioRules

The difference from the top 2-3 teams to number 8 is enormous. Numbers 5-8 have virtually no chance in a playoff setting against the top teams. This aint basketball where a higher seeded team has a decent chance.

No reason to go past 4.

Last year, a top 8 playoff system would have given us:

1 Notre Dame vs 8 LSU

2 Alabama vs. 7 Georgia

3 Florida vs 6 Stanford

4 Oregon vs 5 K State

I think three of the four could easily be one by the 5-8. We'll never know though.........

[Acuda]

Originally Posted by Toxic Toast

Last year, a top 8 playoff system would have given us:

1 Notre Dame vs 8 LSU

2 Alabama vs. 7 Georgia

3 Florida vs 6 Stanford

4 Oregon vs 5 K State

I think three of the four could easily be one by the 5-8. We'll never know though.........

Considering the Ducks pasted K-State, I would assume you meant 6-8 could have won. I agree LSU and Stanford would easily have won.

[Toxic Toast]

Originally Posted by Acuda

Considering the Ducks pasted K-State, I would assume you meant 6-8 could have won. I agree LSU and Stanford would easily have won.

No need for Duck fan to get his panties in a bunch.

I said 3 of the 4, people are perfectly capable of reading the post and drawing whatever conclusion they choose.

[Acuda]

Originally Posted by Toxic Toast

No need for Duck fan to get his panties in a bunch.

I said 3 of the 4, people are perfectly capable of reading the post and drawing whatever conclusion they choose.

Shoot, after the opening 100 meter dash, er, I mean kickoff, it was a forgone conclusion- no need to draw them. Hey, I'm just having fun. I do think Stanford and LSU would have rolled in those match-ups though.

[edsg25]

I would love, absolutely love, an 8 team play off, but under one condition.......pull back in the insanity of super conferences and go back to regionally based leagues, eight of them, each which its champion automatically going into a play off (sorry ND, if you want to play, you have to join a conference. You gotta pay to play).

I'd love to see 12 teams in each conference and, if possible, an 11 game round robin. Existing conferences could easily make this happen, but they would have to shed their newer schools and go back to something akin to their original footprints.

And make the first round of play-offs the New Years bowls with traditional set ups....like Big Ten vs. Pac 12 in the Rose.

The whole country could be covered:

northeast( Big East)
southeast (ACC)
south (SEC)
midwest (Big Ten)
great plains (revived Big 8)
southwest (revived SWC)
rockies (MWC)
west coast (Pac 12)

What might that look like?

BIG EAST: Pitt, Penn State, Temple, Rutgers, Navy, Army, Syracuse, UMass, UConn, BC, WV, Buffalo

ACC: Miami, FSU, Wake, UNC, NCSU, Duke, UVa, VT, Maryland, UCF, Clemson, SoCar (I'm returning SoCar to conference to be with Clemson again)

SEC: LSU, Tulane, Ole Miss, Miss State, Bama, Auburn, Fla, UGa, GT, Tenn, Vandy, Ky (again.....Ga and GT are reunited and this was at one time the 12 team SEC)

Big Ten: Minn, Iowa, Wis, N'western, Illinois, Indiana, Purdue, Notre Dame, MSU, Mich, OSU, Cincy

Big Eight: Louisville, Memphis, Mizzou, Ia St, Neb, KU, K-State, OU, OK St, Tulsa, Col, Col St

SWC: TT, SMU, TCU, Baylor, A&M, Tex, Rice, Hou, Ark, UNM, NMSU, FAU, So Miss (I needed a slot somewhere for FAU)

MWC: Hawaii, Ida, Boise, Montana, Wyoming, AF, Utah, USU, BYU, Nev, UNLV, SJSU

Pac 12: WSU, Wash, Ore St, Ore, Cal, Stanford, Fresno, UCLA, USC, SDSU, Ariz, ASU

[NJ2MDdude]

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edsg25, not sure the ACC and SEC would take back South Carolina and GTech, respectively. I wouldn't mind returning those schools to the old Metro Conference with FSU, Cincy, Louisville, Memphis, Tulane and South Florida. I'd also toss in Central Florida and East Carolina.