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Old 09-05-2013, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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Sumlin got off to a great start - but with the Sherminator's recruits (just like stoops did at OU). We'll see how he does with his own guys after Manziel & others leave. If he's still there.
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Old 09-05-2013, 03:55 PM
 
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I didnt say Sumlin should have done anything differently in that situation... I didnt say what Manziel did to Sumlin was wrong in the situation either. I am not looking at the situation that happened saturday with them in a vacuum.

But based on what I have seen the past year with Manziel and Sumlin... Sumlin, is not a E.F. Hutton type of guy.
I don't see than Sumlin has done anything even remotely questionable. He has shown integrity throughout his career and it continues at A&M. He hires excellent coaches. He seems to have a gift for relating to young men. Maybe it is as simple as what he isn't - a fat old white guy that doesn't get rap music or social media.
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Old 09-05-2013, 04:05 PM
 
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Sumlin got off to a great start - but with the Sherminator's recruits (just like stoops did at OU). We'll see how he does with his own guys after Manziel & others leave. If he's still there.
True enough (the players). But 16 of his players (freshmen) played against Rice. Several of A&M's strong players last year were his recruits (especially Mike Evans (WR) and Julian Obioha (12 starts at DL)). 29 players on the 2-deep are sophomores or freshmen. 25 of the 2-deep are freshmen or transfers - all Sumlin players. Some of the sophomores were Sherman's recruits.

No doubt Sumlin started with an outstanding OL, an explosive QB, and a few other talents like Damontre Moore.

I still don't get why you think he might not stay long at A&M.
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Old 09-05-2013, 06:59 PM
 
Location: The "Rock"
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I don't see than Sumlin has done anything even remotely questionable. He has shown integrity throughout his career and it continues at A&M. He hires excellent coaches. He seems to have a gift for relating to young men. Maybe it is as simple as what he isn't - a fat old white guy that doesn't get rap music or social media.
His race, weight, or choice of music is irrelevant.

I just think he's bland... I didn't say he wasn't a good coach.
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Old 09-06-2013, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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True enough (the players). But 16 of his players (freshmen) played against Rice. Several of A&M's strong players last year were his recruits (especially Mike Evans (WR) and Julian Obioha (12 starts at DL)). 29 players on the 2-deep are sophomores or freshmen. 25 of the 2-deep are freshmen or transfers - all Sumlin players. Some of the sophomores were Sherman's recruits.

No doubt Sumlin started with an outstanding OL, an explosive QB, and a few other talents like Damontre Moore.

I still don't get why you think he might not stay long at A&M.
If he does really well the next several years and a bigger time program comes calling with $$$, he will leave.... just like he did at Houston.

JMO
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Old 09-06-2013, 12:52 PM
 
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His race, weight, or choice of music is irrelevant.

I just think he's bland... I didn't say he wasn't a good coach.
Bland? Compared to?

Mike Sherman was bland.
Les Miles is not bland.
Bob Stoops is middle of the road
Saban is super established, but he doesn't have a notable personality.
Mack Brown isn't bland, but is hardly charismatic.

Day in day out most D1 head coaches, good or bad, are pretty boring.
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Old 09-06-2013, 12:56 PM
 
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If he does really well the next several years and a bigger time program comes calling with $$$, he will leave.... just like he did at Houston.

JMO
I disagree. If A&M is a perennial SEC contender, and he is paid, say $4M a year, what would he leave for? Which SEC, Big 10, Big12, or PAC12 team would be so appealing?
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Old 09-08-2013, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Charlotte NC
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Sumlin can only do so much...

..especially when you have the AD defending Johnny and saying players should be paid.

I was a Johnny football fan but the kid is annoying. Its great theater though so I'm not too mad at his antics.
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Old 09-08-2013, 12:30 PM
 
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Yesterday was a trouble free day for him. He focused on football and played very well. It was obvious he was restrained by the coaches on running. He had some huge opportunities to run that he didn't take advantage of and chose to throw instead.

For college football fans in Texas, the better theater may be in Austin, watching the firestorm building around Mack Brown.
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Old 09-08-2013, 05:45 PM
 
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Yesterday was a trouble free day for him. He focused on football and played very well. It was obvious he was restrained by the coaches on running. He had some huge opportunities to run that he didn't take advantage of and chose to throw instead.

For college football fans in Texas, the better theater may be in Austin, watching the firestorm building around Mack Brown.
No kiddin'.

Maybe the Forty Acres is gettin' ready to get rid of its mule.
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