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Old 10-21-2013, 09:29 PM
 
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It was an ugly loss, but it's still only a single loss at this point, and Clemson had already defeated last year's SEC runner-up, and this was after having defeated the LSU Tigers, who usually win the Chick-Fil-A bowl by a minimum of two touchdowns. Clemson's probably barely a top ten team - barely. FSU's for real. This was their signature win that they've been looking for over the past four years.
IDK, Clemson was overrated. One win against a good team doesnt make them good. Every dog as their day any given saturday. FSU may be for real but they still have to play a great team to prove it, and Clemson is not a great team. They arent a bad team but they were really overhyped.
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Old 10-21-2013, 10:08 PM
 
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IDK, Clemson was overrated. One win against a good team doesnt make them good. Every dog as their day any given saturday. FSU may be for real but they still have to play a great team to prove it, and Clemson is not a great team. They arent a bad team but they were really overhyped.
If you don't think FSU is legit at this point in the season, I'm not sure what to say. Their QB is a manchild that college football has rarely seen. I say enjoy it.
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Old 10-21-2013, 10:45 PM
 
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IDK, Clemson was overrated. One win against a good team doesnt make them good. Every dog as their day any given saturday. FSU may be for real but they still have to play a great team to prove it, and Clemson is not a great team. They arent a bad team but they were really overhyped.
Okay, but really, how do we know who's real until we're at the end of the season? Last week, Clemson looked as 'real' as any team out there; FSU made them looked less 'real'? Nobody was saying Clemson wasn't real until Saturday night, when FSU turned them into a pulp. I say props to FSU. Clemson may or may not be that good - we don't know. Who knows, maybe they are that good but the FSU loss is so demoralizing that they slump through the rest of the season. I think Clemson's still Clemson. Their defense is suspect - same as it ever was. Their offense is pretty good, though; it's just that FSU's defense is friggin phenomenal. We know this much: FSU's defense is able to do to Clemson what no other team before could.
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Old 10-21-2013, 10:57 PM
 
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Okay, but really, how do we know who's real until we're at the end of the season? Last week, Clemson looked as 'real' as any team out there; FSU made them looked less 'real'? Nobody was saying Clemson wasn't real until Saturday night, when FSU turned them into a pulp. I say props to FSU. Clemson may or may not be that good - we don't know. Who knows, maybe they are that good but the FSU loss is so demoralizing that they slump through the rest of the season. I think Clemson's still Clemson. Their defense is suspect - same as it ever was. Their offense is pretty good, though; it's just that FSU's defense is friggin phenomenal. We know this much: FSU's defense is able to do to Clemson what no other team before could.
Clemson hasnt played anyone good this season, neither has FSU. Ill give it that Clemson beat LSU last year, but they got destroyed by WVU a year before that.

It is easy to look 'real' when you play mediocre teams, and on a ACC schedule you get lots of those. If someone in the ACC can beat FSU Clemson could recover and win the conference, but that seems unlikely.

The problem with the BCS is even after the season you cant tell if a team is good. Take FSU last year they made it to the BCS but played Northern Illinois. Had they played Oregon or Bama we would have an idea of how good FSU is. THat is why this playoff system is a good start, although it needs to be expanded. Right now for a team to be ranked and considered good they mainly have to do well in their conference. That is tough in the Big 12, SEC, B1G, but in conferences like the Big E or the ACC it is much harder to tell because a team can dominate them and not be good.
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Old 10-22-2013, 02:19 AM
 
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College football polls shouldn't come out until week 4 at the earliest, and probably even week 5 or 6 are better. That's why you can have teams like Texas A&M with 2 losses still sitting up there ahead of Auburn. Since they started the season so high, the voters can't drop them far.
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Old 10-22-2013, 06:47 AM
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Last week, Clemson looked as 'real' as any team out there...
You mean when they let Boston College hang around way too long before finally beating them by ten?
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Old 10-22-2013, 09:25 AM
 
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You mean when they let Boston College hang around way too long before finally beating them by ten?
Teams have unimpressive weeks; prior to that they had controlled most of the games they had played, including their week one victory over Georgia. The Bulldogs, by the way, are arguably better than their record indicates. I think Clemson's still a top ten team, but time will tell. Based on the way the season's gone so far, though, nine or ten seems about right.
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Old 10-22-2013, 09:28 AM
 
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Clemson hasnt played anyone good this season, neither has FSU. Ill give it that Clemson beat LSU last year, but they got destroyed by WVU a year before that.

It is easy to look 'real' when you play mediocre teams, and on a ACC schedule you get lots of those. If someone in the ACC can beat FSU Clemson could recover and win the conference, but that seems unlikely.

The problem with the BCS is even after the season you cant tell if a team is good. Take FSU last year they made it to the BCS but played Northern Illinois. Had they played Oregon or Bama we would have an idea of how good FSU is. THat is why this playoff system is a good start, although it needs to be expanded. Right now for a team to be ranked and considered good they mainly have to do well in their conference. That is tough in the Big 12, SEC, B1G, but in conferences like the Big E or the ACC it is much harder to tell because a team can dominate them and not be good.
What Clemson did or didn't do two years ago means nothing. Do you think LSU would beat Oregon 40-27 if they played right now? Would Auburn beat Oregon?
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Old 10-22-2013, 10:14 AM
 
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What Clemson did or didn't do two years ago means nothing. Do you think LSU would beat Oregon 40-27 if they played right now? Would Auburn beat Oregon?
A playoff system and more non-conference games against non-cupcakes could answer those questions. At this point i doubt clemson could beat any of those teams.
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Old 10-22-2013, 07:30 PM
 
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A playoff system and more non-conference games against non-cupcakes could answer those questions. At this point i doubt clemson could beat any of those teams.
Georgia is hardly a cupcake team. Clemson faced Georgia's offense at full power. Since that game, Georgia lost it's top offensive weapon Todd Gurley and their top receiver Malcolm Mitchell. In addition to these main two, they lost many more receivers and their backup runningback. Georgia is obviously missing them as they are losing. With them, they are a top team in the SEC East.
Georgia's offense came to a screeching halt after injuries - The Red and Black : Sports
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