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View Poll Results: Should SEC ban the scheduling of FCS teams?
Yes, SEC should follow B1G and ban the scheduling of FCS teams 1 7.14%
No, SEC should not follow B1G and ban the scheduling of FCS teams 4 28.57%
Yes and all FBS teams should only play FBS teams 8 57.14%
No and no FBS teams should only play FBS teams 1 7.14%
Voters: 14. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-08-2013, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA..don't go to GSU
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So that explains why UCF for many years has been Top 3 in student enrollment (football juggernaut there)... Speaking on the state of Florida, FIU has more enrolled than either UF, FSU, or Miami. FIU has always done poorly in football; just this year they are 1-11 and pretty much last in all team statistics.

As to the FCS, they care about athletics too. The reason for the scheduling against the FBS is they get nice pay checks (half a million plus per game). These paychecks allow them to support their athletic programs, not just football. Occasionally, they surprise the world and win. These wins get them better recruits and more donor money.

All the Big10 is doing is stopping them from looking like fools when teams like Northern Iowa continue to beat them. Now they are just replacing them with lower tier FBS. Same difference.

Enrollment isn't an academic metric, nor is it reflective of applications(acceptance rate). Enrollment is how many students matriculate at a university. Applications are how many students apply to a university. UF, FSU and Miami are research universities. UCF is a state college, so you can't compare those two in enrollment of academically. They serve different missions.

Also for a school like UCF, they're so irrelevant acceptance rate doesn't matter. The school's mission is different compared to a research university like UF, FSU and Miami.
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Old 12-08-2013, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA..don't go to GSU
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I never said those schools don't care about football. They can't afford it.
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Old 12-08-2013, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA..don't go to GSU
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It will bring in money due the fact that teams will have more quality opponents at home (ticket sales and tv money). Also will sometimes help their SOS which might help get them a spot in the new playoff over a team that played an FCS school and other patsies OOC.

Florida paid $500,000 to get beat at home by Georgia Southern. The teams that pay FCS teams need to stop it, step up and get with the rest of CFB or eventually they will be left behind. It may take awhile but it will happen.

GA Southern in FBS basically. They're in the sun belt. App State as well.
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Old 12-08-2013, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Fort Mill, SC
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Enrollment isn't an academic metric, nor is it reflective of applications(acceptance rate). Enrollment is how many students matriculate at a university. Applications are how many students apply to a university. UF, FSU and Miami are research universities. UCF is a state college, so you can't compare those two in enrollment of academically. They serve different missions.

Also for a school like UCF, they're so irrelevant acceptance rate doesn't matter. The school's mission is different compared to a research university like UF, FSU and Miami.
Acceptance Rate
FIU 40.5%
UF 44.1%
Better?

FIU is still terrible at football. I mean really, really terrible.
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Old 12-08-2013, 08:28 PM
 
Location: The "Rock"
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GA Southern in FBS basically. They're in the sun belt. App State as well.
Those schools JUST moved up!!!

Don't try to make that your argument... They have been FCS and in the SoCon.

It shows you how competitive the SoCon in that so many of their programs are able move up.

Marshall... App State... And now GA Southern...
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Old 12-08-2013, 08:32 PM
 
Location: The "Rock"
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I never said those schools don't care about football. They can't afford it.
It's funny thing when you write on the Internet... Their is a record of it.


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Most FCS schools don't even care about football.

Now you can just say you misspoke... And didn't mean it or were just wrong.

Regardless... You said it.
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Old 12-08-2013, 08:33 PM
 
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Frankly I don't see where SEC is making any mistakes as they are the dominate teams last decade. Seven straight tiles speaks well of their system.System is all about recruiting and they clearly dominate more and more each year. looking at other conference perhaps two dominate and most with in the state like Texas. That is why A&M left big 12;in hope they would benefit in recruiting.
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Old 12-09-2013, 09:28 AM
 
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Default More nonsensical anti-SEC butthurt

Uh, I hate to pee on your annual SEC-envy parade of misery, but last I checked, the elite teams of the SEC play 8 conference games, which is the same number that Oregon played. I haven't checked every team's schedule, but Auburn, Mizzou, and Alabama all played 8 conference games; Mizzou and Auburn played 9 if you include the SEC title game. Oregon also played 8 conference games but didn't play a 9th due to their losses in the conference. It's the same number of conference games, so we can write off that fallacious complaint.

And we can also dismiss the notion that it's only SEC teams who play inferior competition. Let's see, Oregon started off the season with the perennial powerhouse that is...Nicholls St. In the meantime, the PAC 12 really ramped up the intensity of its competition by adding...Colorado.

People from outside the Gulf Coast will probably never truly understand why the Southeastern Conference and occasionally the ACC have such an advantage. They have access to a sea of football talent. Yes, the PAC12 has Crenshaw High in L.A. - good for them. But there are hundreds more Crenshaw Highs throughout the Gulf Coast of the U.S. And if programs from the SEC and ACC get half-decent recruiters and coaches, then they're always gonna have the advantage. That's just the way it is.

Big 12 will also be more competitive once they stop playing flag football and return back to playing more defense.
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Old 12-09-2013, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Southwest Arkansas
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yes to a point

I wouldn't mind seeing them still playing their instate FCS schools
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Old 12-09-2013, 04:59 PM
 
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Uh, I hate to pee on your annual SEC-envy parade of misery, but last I checked, the elite teams of the SEC play 8 conference games, which is the same number that Oregon played. I haven't checked every team's schedule, but Auburn, Mizzou, and Alabama all played 8 conference games; Mizzou and Auburn played 9 if you include the SEC title game. Oregon also played 8 conference games but didn't play a 9th due to their losses in the conference. It's the same number of conference games, so we can write off that fallacious complaint.

And we can also dismiss the notion that it's only SEC teams who play inferior competition. Let's see, Oregon started off the season with the perennial powerhouse that is...Nicholls St. In the meantime, the PAC 12 really ramped up the intensity of its competition by adding...Colorado.

People from outside the Gulf Coast will probably never truly understand why the Southeastern Conference and occasionally the ACC have such an advantage. They have access to a sea of football talent. Yes, the PAC12 has Crenshaw High in L.A. - good for them. But there are hundreds more Crenshaw Highs throughout the Gulf Coast of the U.S. And if programs from the SEC and ACC get half-decent recruiters and coaches, then they're always gonna have the advantage. That's just the way it is.

Big 12 will also be more competitive once they stop playing flag football and return back to playing more defense.
Fallacious? Oregon played 9 conference games this year. Along with the rest of the Pac12 and Big12 and soon the B1G will as well. Stanford and UCLA played 10.

The sec is transforming to a more offense oriented league do to multiple reasons. What was the score of the SEC CG? Those weren't the defensive powers of the SEC. They were however the best teams. (Minus Bama.)

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