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Old 01-03-2014, 12:57 PM
 
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Baylor's new stadium looks pretty cool. But the best looking stadiums are the ones that are filled to near capacity with excited home team fans during games. The rest of the time they are pretty much just empty buildings.

Maybe the new stadiums will help Baylor and UH excite their fans enough to show up and fill them. It has not worked at TCU, SMU, or UNT so far.
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Old 01-03-2014, 02:07 PM
 
Location: The Bayou City
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Baylor's new stadium looks pretty cool. But the best looking stadiums are the ones that are filled to near capacity with excited home team fans during games. The rest of the time they are pretty much just empty buildings.

Maybe the new stadiums will help Baylor and UH excite their fans enough to show up and fill them. It has not worked at TCU, SMU, or UNT so far.
Baylor had a record breaking attendance average for the season this year, along with highest single game attendance record in school history.
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Old 01-03-2014, 02:10 PM
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Baylor's new stadium looks pretty cool. But the best looking stadiums are the ones that are filled to near capacity with excited home team fans during games. The rest of the time they are pretty much just empty buildings.

Maybe the new stadiums will help Baylor and UH excite their fans enough to show up and fill them. It has not worked at TCU, SMU, or UNT so far.
You can have the the best looking stadium in the world. When you have a crappy or sub par product ON THE FIELD, however, that stadium will not be filled.

I will say that TCU's "lack of support" is a bit exaggerated, but they also had their worst season since the 90's.
SMU hasn't had anything since the Reagan administration.
UNT JUST got to their first bowl game in some years.
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Old 01-03-2014, 02:44 PM
 
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IIRC, The tarp covers about a quarter of the stadium and Baylor did not remove the tarp until the UT game. But I could be wrong.

TCU and SMU have to rely on the opponents' fans to fill their stadiums. TCU was in a bowl last year ( 2012 season) and is now in the BIG 12 and thier fans still don't show up. SMU won a bowl game last year so they must have won quite a few games and aren't they in a new BCS conference, what is it going to take to get their fans interested?
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Old 01-03-2014, 02:59 PM
 
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IIRC, The tarp covers about a quarter of the stadium and Baylor did not remove the tarp until the UT game. But I could be wrong.

TCU and SMU have to rely on the opponents' fans to fill their stadiums. TCU was in a bowl last year ( 2012 season) and is now in the BIG 12 and their fans still don't show up. SMU won a bowl game last year so they must have won quite a few games and aren't they in a new BCS conference, what is it going to take to get their fans interested?
I can't tell you about the tarp without having to google for info. I know Baylor had a long slump after the Taeff years until Briles and RGIII came along. I was there during the Singletary years and we filled the stadium because we were good. Up until a few years ago I would go back for the Baylor/A&M game when it was played in Waco and it was usually packed. Going to that stadium wasn't that big of a hassle but it was getting rundown looking, like most that area of Waco. I had a place to park in a nearby strip center parking lot and walked to the stadium. It was a lot closer than where I had to park to go to Texas Stadium for a Cowboy game It would have been a luxury to actually have a stadium on campus - not having to drive at all.
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Old 01-03-2014, 03:13 PM
 
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IIRC, The tarp covers about a quarter of the stadium and Baylor did not remove the tarp until the UT game. But I could be wrong.

TCU and SMU have to rely on the opponents' fans to fill their stadiums. TCU was in a bowl last year ( 2012 season) and is now in the BIG 12 and thier fans still don't show up. SMU won a bowl game last year so they must have won quite a few games and aren't they in a new BCS conference, what is it going to take to get their fans interested?
The tarp covered about 5,000 seats if I'm not mistaken. definitely not 12,500. Yes they only removed it twice this year, but both times they sold out the additional 5,000 tickets.
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Old 01-03-2014, 03:27 PM
 
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The tarp covered about 5,000 seats if I'm not mistaken. definitely not 12,500. Yes they only removed it twice this year, but both times they sold out the additional 5,000 tickets.
Yeah it was just one end-zone seating, and would be considerably less than a quarter and it was very uncomfortable concrete - no one wanted to sit there.
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Old 01-03-2014, 06:45 PM
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TCU and SMU have to rely on the opponents' fans to fill their stadiums. TCU was in a bowl last year ( 2012 season) and is now in the BIG 12 and thier fans still don't show up.
Do I really have to go into THIS again?

There have been some sellouts and fans have shown up, but it's kind of hard to sell out EVERY game when you're a private school of less than 10,000 students located in an area where you have to compete for attention with the Dallas Cowboys (which is enough even on years when they completely suck), the Mavericks, Stars, Texas Rangers, and two other FBS schools. In that same area, there are thousands of alumni from several other schools in not just Texas, but the entire country. There's a reason why capacity is 45,000 and not 80,000.

Did you miss my last post about this?
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Old 01-04-2014, 03:41 AM
 
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Do I really have to go into THIS again?

There have been some sellouts and fans have shown up, but it's kind of hard to sell out EVERY game when you're a private school of less than 10,000 students located in an area where you have to compete for attention with the Dallas Cowboys (which is enough even on years when they completely suck), the Mavericks, Stars, Texas Rangers, and two other FBS schools. In that same area, there are thousands of alumni from several other schools in not just Texas, but the entire country. There's a reason why capacity is 45,000 and not 80,000.

Did you miss my last post about this?
what TCU and SMU experience is not just what private universities go through. Large metro areas with lots of pro teams can be brutal even for public schools. Look at Minnesota. The Gophers go up against the Vikings and the other pro teams in the Twin Cities market and it really cuts into their attendance. Indeed, the really glory years of the University of Minnesota (and those years very much did exist) were before the on vent of pro sports in 1960s.

Look at the Bay Area where Cal (public) and Stanford (private), a program with incredible success in recent years, don't even garner the amount of space you would expect in the press as the Bay Area definitely tilts to the pros. Tough for Cal and Stanford in a region with the 49ers (mainly them) and the Raiders.

another factor on attendance: grads of private universities are generally more spread out geographically than grads of state u's so they have a hard time contributing to home attendance.

the trick to understanding private universities' support is how well they travel to bowl games. Northwestern doesn't draw well at home (again that double whammy of private u. and major metro) but when it goes to bowl games, there is a large demand for tickets)
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Old 01-05-2014, 10:34 AM
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To the anonymous guy who gave me a rep but only to message me that I "forgot UT and Tech" (btw, STOP doing that, people) uh, no I didn't.

Like I already mentioned, these are stadiums that are either brand new or completely rebuilt since 2000. Maybe Kyle is throwing some people off, bit it's being altered enough to where it looks completely different.

Texas and Tech's stadiums just expanded. Thats just about it, really.
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