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Old 01-13-2014, 05:59 PM
 
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In the BCS era I think it's between the '01 Hurricanes team and the '04 USC Trojans for the best team.
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Old 01-14-2014, 02:06 PM
 
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Any team with Kellen Winslow, Sean Taylor and Antre Rolle on the practice squad gets my vote. Just get a load of this list:

Among the numerous stars on the 2001 Miami squad were: quarterback Ken Dorsey; running backs Clinton Portis, Willis McGahee, Najeh Davenport, and Frank Gore; tight end Jeremy Shockey; wide receiver Andre Johnson, and Kevin Beard; tackles Bryant McKinnie and Joaquin Gonzalez; defensive linemen Jerome McDougle, William Joseph, and Vince Wilfork; linebackers Jonathan Vilma and D.J. Williams; and defensive backs Ed Reed, Mike Rumph, and Phillip Buchanon. Additional contributors included future stars Kellen Winslow II, Sean Taylor, Antrel Rolle, Vernon Carey, and Rocky McIntosh.

In all, an extraordinary 17 players from the 2001 Miami football team were drafted in the first-round of the NFL Draft ....Overall, 38 members of the team would be selected in the NFL Draft. As of 2012, they had earned an astonishing 41 trips to the Pro Bowl: Ed Reed (9), Andre Johnson (6), Vince Wilfork (5), Frank Gore (4), Jeremy Shockey (4), Jonathan Vilma (3), Willis McGahee (2), Chris Myers (2), Clinton Portis (2), Antrel Rolle (2), Sean Taylor (2), Bryant McKinnie (1), and Kellen Winslow II (1).

2001 Miami Hurricanes football team - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 01-14-2014, 03:35 PM
 
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What does how many future NFL players have to do with how good a college team is? I already know the answer, it doesn't. Miami came very close to losing that season. 95 Nebraska would have ran them off of the field. Was Miami more talented? Probably. Better team? No.

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Old 01-14-2014, 04:09 PM
 
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Is the OP referring to just the Miami Hurricanes only ? His question is somewhat vague
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Old 01-14-2014, 06:21 PM
 
Location: The "Rock"
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What does how many future NFL players have to do with how good a college team is? I already know the answer, it doesn't. Miami came very close to losing that season. 95 Nebraska would have ran them off of the field. Was Miami more talented? Probably. Better team? No.
I think you are missing the point... the debate is a fantasy. It cannot be answered with any real basis.

The number of NFL players is one of many barometers people can use to compare the teams. It's a baseline... A point of reference.

Of course it's not the end all... But it's better than arbitrarily saying one team would kill the other.

You can take any numbers or stats from either team to compare and it would be similar.
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Old 01-14-2014, 06:36 PM
 
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I think you are missing the point... the debate is a fantasy. It cannot be answered with any real basis.

The number of NFL players is one of many barometers people can use to compare the teams. It's a baseline... A point of reference.

Of course it's not the end all... But it's better than arbitrarily saying one team would kill the other.

You can take any numbers or stats from either team to compare and it would be similar.
Not really. The stats are on the Huskers side. The NFL holds no logic in debating teams at the collegiate level.

95 Huskers;
Out scored opponents 421-150. (Played 4 top ten teams iirc)
Averaged over 400 rushing yards per game (even though every single team knew they were going to run it)
Averaged 7 yards per rush attempt.
Averaged over 50 ppg. Allowed less than 15.
Defense had something like 30 sacks for negative 200 yards.

No one challenged them all year long. Things go a little different when Miami plays Va tech and Miami isn't even in the discussion of greatest teams ever. The Huskers had back to back undefeated national championship seasons. Maybe the 95 Huskers weren't the "best." They were certainly the most dominate college football team ever though. Can't argue that.

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Old 01-14-2014, 10:59 PM
 
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Not really. The stats are on the Huskers side. The NFL holds no logic in debating teams at the collegiate level.

95 Huskers;
Out scored opponents 421-150. (Played 4 top ten teams iirc)
Averaged over 400 rushing yards per game (even though every single team knew they were going to run it)
Averaged 7 yards per rush attempt.
Averaged over 50 ppg. Allowed less than 15.
Defense had something like 30 sacks for negative 200 yards.

No one challenged them all year long. Things go a little different when Miami plays Va tech and Miami isn't even in the discussion of greatest teams ever. The Huskers had back to back undefeated national championship seasons. Maybe the 95 Huskers weren't the "best." They were certainly the most dominate college football team ever though. Can't argue that.
You are so busy arguing on something that has no right or wrong that you missed the point of my statement... again.

When i said the numbers would be similar... I wasn't saying comparing any numbers or stats would be in Miami's favor... I was saying the NFL numbers are like (similar) comparing any numbers, regardless who it favors.

And technically comparing the stats of a team from 1995 to one in 2001 holds no logic either... But if it makes you feel better to "think" you win the argument.

Then you got it! *congrats*

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Old 01-15-2014, 07:09 AM
 
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You are so busy arguing on something that has no right or wrong that you missed the point of my statement... again.

When i said the numbers would be similar... I wasn't saying comparing any numbers or stats would be in Miami's favor... I was saying the NFL numbers are like (similar) comparing any numbers, regardless who it favors.

And technically comparing the stats of a team from 1995 to one in 2001 holds no logic either... But if it makes you feel better to "think" you win the argument.

Then you got it! *congrats*
Gee, thanks buddy!
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Old 01-15-2014, 08:23 AM
 
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It's the 95 Huskers. The 2001 Hurricanes was the greatest collection of individual talent ever to play college football. But the best TEAM was the 1995 Huskers. There's a difference. I think the Huskers were better coached and played better opponents as well. They blew everyone out including what I believe up until a few years ago, the best Florida Gator team ever.
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Old 01-16-2014, 06:32 AM
 
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It's the 95 Huskers. The 2001 Hurricanes was the greatest collection of individual talent ever to play college football. But the best TEAM was the 1995 Huskers. There's a difference. I think the Huskers were better coached and played better opponents as well. They blew everyone out including what I believe up until a few years ago, the best Florida Gator team ever.
Yeah you are probably right. It's a fair point that their pro career doesn't equate to the best college team. Still that collection of talent at Miami is just so hard to ignore I had to post it.
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