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Old 09-29-2014, 07:11 PM
 
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Do you have any data the suggests the auto companies were paying Michigan recruits or are you speculating on the commonly held belief that college athletes are paid and that in Michigan it must be the auto giants that pay them?
You can google the Chris Webber fab 5 case as easily as I can. As always, follow the moneys.
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Old 09-29-2014, 07:15 PM
 
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Big 10 has been struggling for some time. It's sad to see the Michigan football program regress as far as it has. Other conference teams are dropping games that would have been won easily years ago. I can't put my finger on it but am wondering if weather has anything to do with recruiting players. Some of the schools have tougher academic standards (if they actually apply to athletes in practice) that could hinder decisions to come.
Another dirty truth is shared by many grads of northern schools I've met. Although they enjoyed their college experience, they would strongly consider going to a warm weather school if they did it again.
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Old 10-22-2014, 12:27 PM
 
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You can google the Chris Webber fab 5 case as easily as I can. As always, follow the moneys.
The money you keep referring to was the result of a numbers racket operated by Ford Motor Company employees, not Ford Motor Company itself. Ford was not paying Michigan players.
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Old 11-01-2014, 09:26 PM
 
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In terms of facilities, revenue, and academics, the Big Ten is certainly a power conference, perhaps in some ways The power conference. Certain programs are struggling just a bit right now with recruiting, but when it comes to conference expansion and the long-term plan, the Big Ten can do whatever it wants. It's just a matter of time. Specifically, I believe in the long term, somewhere between 10 and 20 years from now, the Big Ten will add North Carolina and Virginia. There are some other people who won't like how that works out for them, but the Big Ten gets what the Big Ten wants.
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Old 11-02-2014, 06:56 AM
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A year ago, Urban Meyer called out his fellow conference coaches over the quality of their recruiting.

Urban Meyer wants the Big Ten to step up its recruiting game - CBSSports.com

It will help that the conference now has a presence in NJ and MD, states that Ohio State was mining for talent already.
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Old 11-03-2014, 09:09 AM
 
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the Big Ten gets what the Big Ten wants.
Truth. Just ask Notre Dame.
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Old 11-04-2014, 03:07 PM
 
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Old 11-06-2014, 11:52 AM
 
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Indiana just went on the road and beat an SEC team.
This is going to be hilarious if Mizzou plays in the SEC title game. May not happen but the SEC is over rated consistently from top to bottom and play by different rules than B10 with academics and oversigning for example. Yes, there is no argument that their top few teams have been the strongest but top to bottom they get more credit than is actually due.

Look at aTM and S Carolina. Ranked so high to begin with JUST because they are in the SEC and so everyone's ranking is artificially inflated by the media and ESPN.

I'm not saying the B10 isn't down but they have hurdles that the south doesn't, not to mention that they have to build differently to play in Oct (lots of years) and November. The next few weeks are going to set records for cold in the month of November.

When it comes to bowls, the B10 nearly always ends up playing "up" due to their financial power and influence.

Take Iowa for example, they have held their own with the SEC in bowl games but nearly always are playing a slightly higher ranked to much higher ranked team as their bowl opponent. It's a catch 22 for the B10

so they have a losing bowl record and the next year, they don't get any benefit of the doubt with rankings so they have a bigger obstacle to over come.
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Old 11-08-2014, 05:44 AM
 
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*Some* of the BIG schools have academic hurdles, but I doubt that really applies to Ohio St, Nebraska, or Penn State. Minnesota and Ilinois? Yeah, they maintain their standards, I'd say -- at least in football.

I think the BIG will eventually climb back -- too much tradition not to. If Oregon can convince good recruits to go to the rainy, soggy environment of the northwest, then there's no reason why schools in farm country can't recruit as well. It's just going to take the right combination of on-the-field coaching and recruiting. But the BIG will always have the $$$ needed to compete.

I suspect that in another year or two Urban Meyer will have the Buckeyes where he wants them. Penn State's still dealing with the effects of sanctions, so they'll climb back -- they've got a great coach and would be foolish to ditch him while he's still clearly rebuilding. Jury's out on whether Pelini can turn the Huskers into a title contender but he's got that team competitive.

Tell you what. I'm an SEC'er, so I tend to be biased, but I'm a huge fan of MSU's program right now. They play football the way it's meant to be played. Would not mind it a bit if the Spartans won the title.
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Old 11-11-2014, 06:52 PM
 
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I think the lineman in BIG are the only ones that can compete with SEC week in and out. Nebraska saw that when they joined.

Speedwise, we still need some work.
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