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Old 01-01-2015, 08:03 PM
 
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I've been arguing TCU is better all season (not completely on this forum). Baylor was a better team in one game. At the end of the regular season TCU was the better team. A team that loses to baylor by 3 is better than a team that loses to WVU by 14. I watched many Baylor and TCU games during the year. They both have amazing offenses (2 best in the country) but TCU is has a defense that is top 10 in the country and Baylor cannot say the same.
Yes but they had identical records and Baylor won their head to head, so better or not, Baylor had more claim to the title of Big 12 champs and a shot in the final four than TCU
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Old 01-01-2015, 09:23 PM
 
Location: So California
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Ole Miss also lost 30 to 0 to...Arkansas, 6 win team. Not saying that TCU isn't an impressive team but to be real, Baylor has a stronger argument than TCU. They lost to WVU, so any given weekend....
How is that? Of course Baylor just gave their game away but prior to that Baylor had lost to WV and TCU after leading all day gave away a last minute decision on the road against a top 5 team.

It could be argued that TCU had the "best" loss of all of the contenders.
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Old 01-01-2015, 11:10 PM
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Location: Fort Worth
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TCU is way better than both Baylor and FSU...
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...And has been for years.
Baylor, yes.
Florida State... no.

Baylor's football team really wasn't worth a damn until RGIII came along. Sure, they had a few winning seasons here and there and played in some bowl games. But they were never really a national championship caliber program until JUST NOW. Everything that they're doing or trying to do now, TCU already did years ago... decades ago, even.

But Florida State had the better football program over TCU for a long time. Somewhere in between Sammy Baugh and Jeff Ballard, TCU was a doormat with a couple good seasons thrown in, and Florida State won a couple national titles within that time period (1965 - 1998)
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Old 01-01-2015, 11:16 PM
 
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Well... #JustSaying
I ain't mad. I was laughing the entire time watching baylor give up that 20 point lead. #****thebears
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Old 01-01-2015, 11:21 PM
 
Location: OKIE-Ville
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Yes but they had identical records and Baylor won their head to head, so better or not, Baylor had more claim to the title of Big 12 champs and a shot in the final four than TCU
Yep. That's right.
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Old 01-01-2015, 11:21 PM
 
Location: The Bayou City
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Baylor, yes.
Florida State... no.

Baylor's football team really wasn't worth a damn until Briles came along. Sure, they had a few winning seasons here and there and played in some bowl games. But they were never really a national championship caliber program until JUST NOW. Everything that they're doing or trying to do now, TCU already did years ago... decades ago, even.

But Florida State had the better football program over TCU for a long time. Somewhere in between Sammy Baugh and Jeff Ballard, TCU was a doormat with a couple good seasons thrown in, and Florida State won a couple national titles in that time.
He was referring to the other half of the comment that you didn't quote. And I fixed your quote for you (assuming you ignore the Teaff years). It's easy having a better record than Baylor when you're in a weak non power 5 conference.. Last I checked Baylor has won more games in the Baylor/TCU series.
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Old 01-01-2015, 11:26 PM
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Location: Fort Worth
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He was referring to the other half of the comment that you didn't quote. And I fixed your quote for you (assuming you ignore the Teaff years). It's easy having a better record than Baylor when you're in a weak non power 5 conference.. Last I checked Baylor has won more games in the Baylor/TCU series.
No, you CAN'T use that excuse. You know why? Because there are several "non power 5" conference teams that are still in said conferences and completely unknown.

TCU could have been another one of those schools who were just mediocre in the SMALLER conferences and never advancing. It's not the conference that makes you a winner. It's the program, the coaching, the recruiting, and the right people involved who makes your program a winner.

What's Baylor's excuse for SUCKING for that long. After all, since they were in the Big XII longer than TCU, doesn't that mean they're automatically the better program? TCU did in 3 years what it took Baylor nearly 2 decades to do, albeit "sharing" a conference title.

(P.S., they're only up by ONE game in the series and this is the year they went up. It's not like Baylor has been dominant or anything)
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Old 01-01-2015, 11:38 PM
 
Location: The Bayou City
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(P.S., they're only up by ONE game in the series and this is the year they went up. It's not like Baylor has been dominant or anything)
This pretty much negates everything you said before it.. Thank you for acknowledging that Baylor has been better than TCU historically..
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Old 01-01-2015, 11:40 PM
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This pretty much negates everything you said before it.. Thank you for acknowledging that Baylor has been better than TCU historically..
.... are you freaking serious?
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Old 01-01-2015, 11:44 PM
 
Location: The Bayou City
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.... are you freaking serious?
Uh.. Yeah? The record proves that.
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