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Old 12-08-2014, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Aurora, CO
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Plus what kind of conference calls itself Big12 and hen go have only 10 teams? :P
The same kind of conference that calls itself the Big 10 but has 14 teams.
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Old 12-08-2014, 01:26 PM
 
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Maybe the Big 12 should actually have a conference champion rather than complaining about other conference champions (who actually played in conference championship games and definitively won their respective conferences).
NCAA rules allows championship games to be played by conferences with at least 12 members. Bowlsby wants an exemption from the rule for the Big 12 but the other P5 conferences may not go along.
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Old 12-08-2014, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Great Falls, VA
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They need to expand that conference, not get a waiver. That's my opinion anyway.
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Old 12-08-2014, 01:50 PM
 
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They need to expand that conference, not get a waiver. That's my opinion anyway.
I second that (and in reality this is the opinion of most Big 12 fans). The Big 12 got left in the dust in expansion, but was lucky enough to snag TCU and WVU. It also should have attacked the ACC before it was too late. During conference realignment, the ACC was weak, the Big 12 felt "comfortable". Now all that is left is a few American schools, and maybe BYU or a Mountain West team. There is no way that an ACC school (or one from any other p5 for that matter) would leave now!
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Old 12-08-2014, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Dublin, OH
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The Big 12 really did themselves a disservice by going against their own rules....the rulebook clearly states that if 2 teams have identical records, the 1 and only champion is the team that won that game. That was Baylor. Then w/ 2 weeks to go, they claim they will crown co-champions. That along w/ no championship game (they could have asked for an exemption, or they could add 2 more teams) really hurt them both. Couple that with fact that Baylor played 2 FCS schools and a MAC school OOC, and you have what you got.

Even based on total resumes, the records of OSU opponents were 84-60, while the records of TCU's were 61-70 and Baylor's were 61-70. Also, OSU beat 9 Bowl eligible teams, TCU beat 7 and Baylor beat 6.

Then, because our 3rd string QB showed he was no slouch and led OSU to blow out a good Wis team, to show the nation that we really are an elite team...that was enough to push us over. I fully believe if we had only won that game like 34-24, we would not have jumped in. 59-0 made a huge statement.
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Old 12-08-2014, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Dublin, OH
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Lets see they could add U of H, that would be 11, and who else ?
Try for BYU or Boise State...Cincinnati could work too to give WVU a closer opponent These 3 along w/ Houston are probably every bit as good as teams like Iowa State and Kansas.
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Old 12-08-2014, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Dublin, OH
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BYU is the only program that brings value upfront. It has a large stadium and a fervent fan base. But it doesn't play (basketball) on Sundays. All of the other schools bring potential that has to be developed over 10 years, assuming the schools are interested in more than just a pay day.
The Mountain West works around that just fine...even when they make the NCAA tourny, the committee works around that. I don't see a major issue w/ that to keep from inviting a pretty good school w/ a pretty decent athletic department and a good fanbase from the conference.
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Old 12-08-2014, 02:04 PM
 
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I think the conference champs (determined by championship game) should get an automatic bid with 3 at-large schools. That would make it an 8 school playoff, assuming the Big 12 expands by two.
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Old 12-08-2014, 02:09 PM
 
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The Mountain West works around that just fine...even when they make the NCAA tourny, the committee works around that. I don't see a major issue w/ that to keep from inviting a pretty good school w/ a pretty decent athletic department and a good fanbase from the conference.
I think BYU should get an invite with possibly Colorado State. CSU's board of trustees just approved the construction of a new on-campus football stadium, seating at least 50,000. Their basketball program is decent. Plus a CSU invite would put the Big 12 back in the Denver market. If the Big 12 later on chooses to go to 14, it could move further westward, inviting Boise State and UNLV or New Mexico.
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Old 12-08-2014, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Dublin, OH
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The committee is full of crap. As long as Alabama beats the hell out of them (which they should since OSU couldn't even handle Virginia Tech), then all will be alright in the world.



Or the playoff will be expanded to more teams. I thought the BCS system was better than this; it had at least had some semblance of objectivity.

OSU would have been #4 by going w/ the OLD BCS formula rankings. Avg of the all the computer polls (subtract the best and worst ranking from them) along w/ the 2 human polls (Coaches and AP{no Harris Poll anymore}).

I guess you didn't see that fact that Va Tech was crushed w/ injuries all year or that OSU has steadily improved all year long since the 1st couple weeks where we broke in 4 new starters on the O Line plus a new QB who found out only 1 week before the season started that he would be the starter plus new starters at RB. Plus the old BCS system, the earlier in the season you lost, the less hurt you were by it.
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