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Old 12-08-2014, 12:10 PM
 
Location: FL
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I don't know what Oregon team your quoting here, but you might want to go back and look at the games they have played. There only loss was to Arizona, then they went back and beat Arizona in the Pac 12 Championship game by 51-13. Oregon has played some very good defensive teams, Stanford, Michigan, UCLA and Utah and the out come of these game were not even close, Oregon won by an average of 20 points. FSU had better bring its "A" game to the Rose Bowl because they will be facing a team that plays a full 60 minutes of flat out football. This will be the first time this year that FSU will face a team with the depth that Oregon brings. They have most likely the best quarterback in the country who not only can beat you with his arm but also has legs to match. It's going to be a good game, but you have the score backwards. By the end of the first half it will be Oregon 35 FSU 14, the end score, Oregon 47 FSU 21
Oregon should be concerned about it's own suspect defense. When cupcakes like Wash St. and Cali can put 31 and 41 on them then Jimbo, Jameis and the gang have to be loving what they see on those films.
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Old 12-08-2014, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Upstate
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I'm agree with the OP's well stated commentary that Oregon will face OSU in the title game. Although I am an OSU fan, I think the Ducks will be this years champions as we speak right now. There will be a lot more to analyze after the Sugar and Rose Bowls.

I hope the title game is an exciting close game that is worthy of a national championship.
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Old 12-08-2014, 12:38 PM
 
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you may be able to throw the bomb on us at bama but we can throw it right back at you .. difference maker is can you run on us in the red zone ..we can run on you ...
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Old 12-08-2014, 12:46 PM
 
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Oregon should be concerned about it's own suspect defense. When cupcakes like Wash St. and Cali can put 31 and 41 on them then Jimbo, Jameis and the gang have to be loving what they see on those films.
Those are offensive-oriented teams that spread the ball around and would probably score about 20 on any defense in the nation. The problem for FSU is that they're not a particularly good defensive team themselves. They might be able to keep up with Oregon offensively -- for a while. But they won't be able to do it the entire game. They'll get gassed.
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Old 12-08-2014, 12:50 PM
 
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you may be able to throw the bomb on us at bama but we can throw it right back at you .. difference maker is can you run on us in the red zone ..we can run on you ...
Ohio State's defense has gotten better at the line of scrimmage as the season has progressed. I fully expect Yeldon and Co to get their 10 to 20 yard runs here and there, but I don't think this is a repeat of the 2012/13 national championship game in which Eddie Lacy basically dragged ND defenders 20 yards toward the end zone like it was the Iditarod sled race.

The key for that game will be whether Alabama's defensive line can penetrate and put pressure on the quarterback. If they can force him to make bad decisions, then Alabama will probably win the game, but if Ohio State can protect, the Tide's secondary is going to get slaughtered. Very athletic receivers and a very accurate deep ball thrower from what I can tell so far.
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Old 12-08-2014, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Dublin, OH
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you may be able to throw the bomb on us at bama but we can throw it right back at you .. difference maker is can you run on us in the red zone ..we can run on you ...
Did you not see us just devastate the best RB in college football in a long long time?
OSU can and will stop the run the same as a terrible Arkansas and a mediocre LSU team did.

Cooper will probably make some plays but if we pressure Simms some, I don't expect him to make a huge number of big plays.

I expect this to be a very good game. Urban Meyer has 3 weeks to prep for this and is a master motivator when the whole world is telling him and his team they don't belong (witness 2006 against OSU and this season twice). As a Buckeye fan, I respect the Tide but feel we do match up well. I like our chances...I think we can pull this out and fully expect it to be a great game. IMO, the line set by Vegas is way too high...if it stays that high until game day, I'm putting major money down. I expect to see a 31-27 type of game.

As for the Oregon/FSU game, there is no way FSU can stay in that game if Jameis and company keep turning it over like they do every game. I don't see them slowing down Oregon at all. I see Oregon winning something like 45-21.

I see Oregon beating either Alabama or OSU in the title game. To me, they look like the best team in the country.
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Old 12-08-2014, 01:54 PM
 
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Those are offensive-oriented teams that spread the ball around and would probably score about 20 on any defense in the nation. The problem for FSU is that they're not a particularly good defensive team themselves. They might be able to keep up with Oregon offensively -- for a while. But they won't be able to do it the entire game. They'll get gassed.
Don't worry about Nole defense running out of gas. Georgia Tech had an almost 11 minute advantage in time of Possesion after clipping off 10+ yard chunks of yardage out of that triple option. The FSU defense was out there for long periods of time and became more stingy as the game progressed. They've been doing it all year and Oregon has not even remotely seen with any consistency a team like FSU capable of answering points with points easily and at will.

Defense: edge FSU
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Old 12-08-2014, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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This is the total stats for both the Noles and the Ducks during the 2014 regular season.

Scores by quarter


FSU 79 148 112 107 452

Ducks 107 255 139 131 602

As far as opponents go: FSU has allowed 299 points scored against them, Oregon has allowed 292, this will be an interesting game. Go Ducks
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Old 12-08-2014, 04:45 PM
 
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Don't worry about Nole defense running out of gas. Georgia Tech had an almost 11 minute advantage in time of Possesion after clipping off 10+ yard chunks of yardage out of that triple option. The FSU defense was out there for long periods of time and became more stingy as the game progressed. They've been doing it all year and Oregon has not even remotely seen with any consistency a team like FSU capable of answering points with points easily and at will.

Defense: edge FSU
FSU was the team playing Offensive cupcake teams compared to Oregon. FSU also while having a better Yards per game allowed defense has a slightly worse Points allowed per game defense (against weaker offensive teams). Take a look at the stats I compiled below and tell me that FSU has a better defense when you also look at the offenses that the two teams played.

*In brackets "()" I ranked which teams had the best offense to which teams had the worst in the releam of who Florida State and Oregon Played (For example, Ga Tech was the #1 offensive team Florida St. played and Wake Forest was the number 12 offensive team (worst team) Florida St. played)*

Florida State Opponents offense:
Ok. St.: Ranking-Yrds per game: #92 371 (9)
Removing FCS team from average
clemson: Ranking-Yrds per game: #62 410 (4)
NC State: Ranking-Yrds per game: #66 402 (5)
Wake forest: Ranking-Yrds per game: #128 216 (12)
Syracuse: Ranking-Yrds per game: #115 329 (11)
Notre Dame: Ranking-Yrds per game: #37 445 (2)
Louisville: Ranking-Yrsd per game: #71 396 (6)
Virginia: Ranking-Yrds per game: #88 374 (8)
Miami (FL): Ranking-Yrds per game: #48 431 (3)
Boston College: Ranking-Yrds per game: #79 384 (7)
Florida: Ranking-Yrds per game: #94 370 (10)
Ga Tech: Ranking-Yrds per game: #22 469 (1)

Opponents Average Yrds per game: 383.08 (Comparison example #80 LSU 383)

Oregon Opponents offense:
Removing FCS team from average
Michigan St.: Ranking-Yrds per game: #13 497 (2)
Wyoming: Ranking-Yrds per game: #82 381 (11)
Washington St.: Ranking-Yrds per game: #7 518 (1)
Arizona: Ranking-Yrds per game: #28 461 (5)
Arizona: Ranking-Yrds per game: #28 461 (6)
UCLA: Ranking-Yrds per game: #23 468 (4)
Washington: Ranking-Yrds per game: #75 390 (9)
Cal: Ranking-yrds per game: #15 495 (3)
Stanford: Ranking-yrds per game: #77 387 (10)
Utah: Ranking-yrds per game: #87 375 (12)
Colorado: Ranking-Yrds per game: #42 439 (7)
Oregon St.: Ranking-Yrds per game: #74 394 (8)

Opponents Average Yrds per game: 438.83 (Comparison Example: #42 Colorado 439)

Florida State Defense Yrds per game: #52 378
Oregon Defense Yrds per game: #82 414
Oregon scoring defense (Pts allowed per game): #29 22.5
Florida St. Scoring defense (Pts allowed per game): #30 23.0

Take all that in and tell me again that Florida St. has a better defense.
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Old 12-08-2014, 06:40 PM
 
Location: FL
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FSU was the team playing Offensive cupcake teams compared to Oregon. FSU also while having a better Yards per game allowed defense has a slightly worse Points allowed per game defense (against weaker offensive teams). Take a look at the stats I compiled below and tell me that FSU has a better defense when you also look at the offenses that the two teams played.

*In brackets "()" I ranked which teams had the best offense to which teams had the worst in the releam of who Florida State and Oregon Played (For example, Ga Tech was the #1 offensive team Florida St. played and Wake Forest was the number 12 offensive team (worst team) Florida St. played)*

Florida State Opponents offense:
Ok. St.: Ranking-Yrds per game: #92 371 (9)
Removing FCS team from average
clemson: Ranking-Yrds per game: #62 410 (4)
NC State: Ranking-Yrds per game: #66 402 (5)
Wake forest: Ranking-Yrds per game: #128 216 (12)
Syracuse: Ranking-Yrds per game: #115 329 (11)
Notre Dame: Ranking-Yrds per game: #37 445 (2)
Louisville: Ranking-Yrsd per game: #71 396 (6)
Virginia: Ranking-Yrds per game: #88 374 (8)
Miami (FL): Ranking-Yrds per game: #48 431 (3)
Boston College: Ranking-Yrds per game: #79 384 (7)
Florida: Ranking-Yrds per game: #94 370 (10)
Ga Tech: Ranking-Yrds per game: #22 469 (1)

Opponents Average Yrds per game: 383.08 (Comparison example #80 LSU 383)

Oregon Opponents offense:
Removing FCS team from average
Michigan St.: Ranking-Yrds per game: #13 497 (2)
Wyoming: Ranking-Yrds per game: #82 381 (11)
Washington St.: Ranking-Yrds per game: #7 518 (1)
Arizona: Ranking-Yrds per game: #28 461 (5)
Arizona: Ranking-Yrds per game: #28 461 (6)
UCLA: Ranking-Yrds per game: #23 468 (4)
Washington: Ranking-Yrds per game: #75 390 (9)
Cal: Ranking-yrds per game: #15 495 (3)
Stanford: Ranking-yrds per game: #77 387 (10)
Utah: Ranking-yrds per game: #87 375 (12)
Colorado: Ranking-Yrds per game: #42 439 (7)
Oregon St.: Ranking-Yrds per game: #74 394 (8)

Opponents Average Yrds per game: 438.83 (Comparison Example: #42 Colorado 439)

Florida State Defense Yrds per game: #52 378
Oregon Defense Yrds per game: #82 414
Oregon scoring defense (Pts allowed per game): #29 22.5
Florida St. Scoring defense (Pts allowed per game): #30 23.0

Take all that in and tell me again that Florida St. has a better defense.
This can easily be explained away when not only Oregon but most of their opponents play a super cupcake (Colorado 0-9). Everybody had their way with them so everybody improves.
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