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Old 12-09-2014, 05:21 PM
 
Location: OKIE-Ville
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I highly... HIGHLY doubt that anyone from the other Big 5 conferences are going anywhere. Especially with the ACC. I believe they have tight contracts to deal with.
Yep, 50 mil dollars worth.
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Old 12-09-2014, 06:14 PM
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Location: Fort Worth
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Yep, 50 mil dollars worth.
Yeah, so that's out of the question...
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Old 12-10-2014, 05:49 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Only stadium size will matter. Any school will get a large influx of money if they join the Big 12. More than enough to improve their team, but not enough to build a new stadium.

More money will improve their staffs and facilities. Being in the Big 12 with the previous mentioned improvements, will improve their recruiting. So how good they are now is not a factor, only stadium size should be.
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Old 12-10-2014, 06:28 AM
 
Location: Englewood, Near Eastside Indy
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I think you have to start with the schools that already have the stadium capacity worthy of the Big XII. Since Cincy is commonly floated, any school playing in a stadium at or bigger than Cincy's is included. I excluded schools like USF that play in an NFL stadium, but never come close to filling it.

BYU
Memphis ($183 mill endowment)
UTEP
East Carolina
Rice
Fresno State
South Alabama
UConn ($357 Million)
Houston ($716 Million)
UNLV
Southern Miss
Tulsa
Cincinnati ($1.2 Billion)

If BYU wants a seat at the table, they are the obvious first choice to me.

If not, I think you have to consider two from this group: Houston/Memphis/UConn/Cincinnati. I don't think any of these are desperation moves, though Memphis would be the biggest reach.
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Old 12-10-2014, 04:12 PM
 
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Only stadium size will matter. Any school will get a large influx of money if they join the Big 12. More than enough to improve their team, but not enough to build a new stadium.

More money will improve their staffs and facilities. Being in the Big 12 with the previous mentioned improvements, will improve their recruiting. So how good they are now is not a factor, only stadium size should be.
Obviously a school with a stadium capacity under 40,000 doesn't qualify as a realistic expansion candidate. But stadium size takes second seat to market size. The Big 12's greatest weakness is that it's demographics are not impressive outside of Texas.
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Old 12-10-2014, 04:21 PM
 
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I think you have to start with the schools that already have the stadium capacity worthy of the Big XII. Since Cincy is commonly floated, any school playing in a stadium at or bigger than Cincy's is included. I excluded schools like USF that play in an NFL stadium, but never come close to filling it.

BYU
Memphis ($183 mill endowment)
UTEP
East Carolina
Rice
Fresno State
South Alabama
UConn ($357 Million)
Houston ($716 Million)
UNLV
Southern Miss
Tulsa
Cincinnati ($1.2 Billion)

If BYU wants a seat at the table, they are the obvious first choice to me.

If not, I think you have to consider two from this group: Houston/Memphis/UConn/Cincinnati. I don't think any of these are desperation moves, though Memphis would be the biggest reach.
I think the Big 12 should commit to expansion in either the east or the west, not both. Eastern expansion though won't resolve the "island" issue.
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Old 12-11-2014, 05:08 PM
 
Location: FL
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Is that USF, U of South Florida you're talking about in the original post. I'd love to see that. They would probably draw better than the Bucs after awhile and the region could tell the MLB Rays to finally take a hike. There are only so many sports bucks to go around in a mid size city but I'd rather see good college ball instead.
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Old 12-13-2014, 07:23 AM
 
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In light of recent developments, it's clear that you can't get in without an ACTUAL "one true champion", as the conference's slogan goes. So in order for a better shot at a championship game (and an added bonus of bringing a little sense back into college football) the Big XII would have to get back to 12 teams, and eventually more if the conference wants to survive.

My picks:

BEST choice

- Boise State
- BYU
- Cincy
- ECU
- Memphis
- UCF
- USF

Outside choice

- Air Force
- Colorado State
- Houston
- Louisiana (Lafayette)
- Louisiana Tech
- Rice
- Tulsa

Desperate choice

- Nevada
- North Texas
- SMU
- Texas State
- Tulane
- UNLV
- UTSA (I like them, but I think they have a few more years to go before moving up)
- Wyoming


...I think this calls for a new thread.
Why not New Mexico? Right next door to Texas and Oklahoma, 2 million people in state (bigger than West Virginia and Nebraska), Albuquerque is 800K, enrollment of 35K students, half a billion endowment, state flagship, 40K football stadium that they can fill when the team is good, one of the best basketball venues and followings in the country, a research university with multiple doctoral programs, and a natural rival for Texas Tech.

I think BYU is the best choice available. The only issue that is a concern is Sunday play. Other top candidates are Colorado State, the aforementioned New Mexico, Cincinnati, Memphis, and Houston.
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Old 12-13-2014, 07:43 AM
 
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Not likely. Getting booted from a conference is an extreme rarity. Temple got kicked out of the Big lEast in 2004. Other than that I can't think of any other instance where it happened.
Tulane and Sewanee were in the SEC
Idaho and Montana were in what is now the Pac-12

just to name a few...
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Old 12-13-2014, 08:27 PM
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Why not New Mexico? Right next door to Texas and Oklahoma, 2 million people in state (bigger than West Virginia and Nebraska), Albuquerque is 800K, enrollment of 35K students, half a billion endowment, state flagship, 40K football stadium that they can fill when the team is good, one of the best basketball venues and followings in the country, a research university with multiple doctoral programs, and a natural rival for Texas Tech.
I could see it for basketball, but more than likely, they're looking at football FIRST.

What has New Mexico done in football within the last decade...?
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