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Old 12-15-2014, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Currently living in Reddit
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i could make a case to get rid of 50% of the teams, but what about teams like baylor who sucked forever then just turned it around. ask me 5 years ago and you can take both of the mississippi schools and throw them in the sunbelt. 30 years ago pitt was on top of the world, 20 years ago miami was, now both can't win or draw crowds.
the first 8 years of this centruy Duke won 10 games COMBINED. they won 10 last year. they obviously got a lot better, whos to say they can't take that next step? they would have been canned before anyone as recently as 2011 and never had the chance to see.
how long to we give teams to rebound? does raping children get you kicked out of the big 4 if you draw 110k a game? what if you get big sanctions can you get relegated to CUSA?

maybe relegation is the way to go. crap or get off the pot (or out of the conference)
Relegation is a better solution than a hard-and-fast P4/5 and everyone else is sisters of the poor. The only significant downside to relegation is it might make long-term OOC scheduling a challenge.

I get what you're saying about teams coming and going. But that was before there was line drawn in the sand with the recent CR. Once you settle on 4/5 16-team conferences and determine which schools are "the haves" and which are "the have-nots", there is no way for a have-not to join the haves in the future.

As far as Duke goes, I personally think it says more about Pitt, Syracuse, et.al. Kind of like Jeffrey Loria getting rich off revenue sharing from the Yankees and Red Sox. Too bad there's no players union to bring action against that.

Not to overuse UConn as an example, but there's a school that was told it needed to do X, Y and Z to get their football program into the BE and FBS. They spent tens of millions to build Rentschler and other facilities, got it done, filled the stadium for quality opponents, got to a BCS bowl. And then got screwed in CR. With UMass moving up to FBS, they have to be looking at that example in determining how much a risk they want to take in investing in football and an on (or near) campus facility instead of using Gillette in Foxboro 100 miles to the southeast. If there's a hope of a P5 (comprising "leftovers" as you mention), maybe it's a 40K stadium. If it has to settle on the MAC, then 25K will do and that's where they're stuck for eternity. I mention these two schools specifically as BC is "on an island" with no geographic rivals - and they themselves are a borderline inclusion.

As far as raping children getting you thrown out, well we already know the answer to that.
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Old 12-16-2014, 11:10 AM
 
Location: C-U metro
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Nope. The Pac 12 wants nothing to do with religious schools.
So USC isn't in the Pac-12?!?
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Old 12-16-2014, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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So USC isn't in the Pac-12?!?
USC is not affiliated with any church. The same cannot be said for BYU.
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Old 12-16-2014, 02:41 PM
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Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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Big 12 should have invited Louisville and Cincinnati along with WVU. Louisville go in the ACC so that's a no go.

I say add Cincinnati to make WVU not an island. They are good in football and basketball, have a 1 Billion dollar endowment, good academic rankings, you get the Cincy tv market, and pretty good fan support. After that I say stay in your region and add BYU and Boise State. You could add or consider Colorado State, Fresno, etc. If Memphis had better academic rankings they would be more seriously considered.
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Old 12-16-2014, 02:43 PM
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Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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UConn should go independent in football and go to the Big East in all other sports. Really shocking to see how a basketball power could be left out in the cold because of football. Kentucky and Kansas are lucky they were founding members of stable conferences or that would be their fate. Football drives the bus in American sports
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Old 12-17-2014, 03:47 PM
 
Location: OKIE-Ville
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Going by all the comments by Bowlsby and the sports writers from Oklahoma and Tejas, it appears the Big XII Leadership will stand pat. Bunch a greedy SOB's. Since realignment this conference is a joke. TCU and Baylor getting left shows that the Big XII has a major perception problem.

Shoulda snatched up Louisville when we had the chance. Now we have to wait a decade of more for the Big XII to die a slow death.
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Old 12-22-2014, 04:00 PM
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The Miami Beach Bowl is looking good with two potential Big XII add-ons...
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Old 12-24-2014, 07:21 AM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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heh-heh

Invite both Memphis & BYU - after their bowl the other day it looks like a pretty good instant rivalry, what with a great game plus the postgame fisticuffs.
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Old 12-24-2014, 06:52 PM
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heh-heh

Invite both Memphis & BYU - after their bowl the other day it looks like a pretty good instant rivalry, what with a great game plus the postgame fisticuffs.
Yeah.

(Man, what the hell was that all about?)
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Old 03-30-2015, 08:31 PM
 
Location: The Dirty South.
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Louisiana tech and Houston should join big 12.
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