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View Poll Results: Which "Super Conference" set up do you prefer?
1) Eight 16-team Conferences 6 85.71%
2) 5 & 5 1 14.29%
Voters: 7. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-11-2014, 09:53 PM
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I still believe in 8 super conferences. Just seems like that's what we're headed to. But what would it look like?

I got two options posted here. Either way, NO "INDEPENDENTS".

Option 1: Eight 16-team conferences (128 in total)
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B1G
- West // Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Northwestern, Kansas, Kansas St.
- East // Purdue, Indiana, Ohio St., Michigan, Michigan St., Penn St., Rutgers, Maryland

SEC
- West // Ole Miss, Miss. St., Texas A&M, Arkansas, LSU, TCU, Baylor, Mizzou
- East // Auburn, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, S. Carolina, Vanderbilt, Tennessee, Kentucky,

ACC
- Atlantic // Clemson, FSU., N.C. State, Louisville, Notre Dame, Syracuse, Wake Forest, WVU
- Coastal // B.C., V-Tech, Duke, UNC, Miami, Virginia, Georgia Tech, Pitt

PAC 16
- West // Cal, Stanford, Washington, Washington St., Oregon, Oregon St., USC, UCLA,
- East // Utah, Colorado, Arizona, ASU, Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Ok. St.

E.U.S.A.C
- Eastern // UConn, ECU, WKU, Navy, Ohio, USF, Army, UCF
- Central // Cincinnati, Rice, Houston, SMU, Tulane, LTU, Tulsa, Memphis

W.U.S.A.C.
- Mountain // Iowa St., UTEP, UTSA, Wyomming, Colorado St., Air Force, BYU, Utah St.
- Pacific // Boise St., Idaho, UNLV, Nevada, Fresno St, SDSU, Hawaii, SJSU

Sun Belt
- East // Charlotte, Mid Tenn St., FIU, FAU, Georgia St., Troy, USA, Southern Miss.
- West // New Mexico, Texas St., Louisiana, ULM, Arkansas St., N. Texas, NMSU, Sam Houston St.

Rust Belt
- East // ODU, UMass, Temple, Buffalo, Appalachian St., Marshal, Kent St., Akron
- West // NDSU, NIU, Ball St., EMU, CMU, WMU, Toledo, Bowling Green
OR

Option 2: "Power Five" / "Group of Five" (134 in total)
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B1g N0rth
- West // Illinois, Iowa, Iowa State, Minnesota, Nebraska, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Northwestern,
- East // Purdue, Indiana, Ohio, Michigan, Michigan St., Penn St., Rutgers, Maryland

Big XVI
- East // Cincy, ECU, Kansas, K-State, Louisiana Tech, Memphis, UCF, West Virginia
- West // Baylor, BYU, Houston, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St., TCU, Texas, Texas Tech

SEC
- West // Auburn, Alabama, Ole Miss, Miss. St., Texas A&M, Arkansas, LSU, Mizzou
- East // Florida, Georgia, S. Carolina, Vanderbilt, Tennessee, Kentucky, Navy, USF

ACC
- Atlantic // Clemson, FSU., N.C. State, Louisville, Notre Dame, Syracuse, Wake Forest, Army
- Coastal // B.C., V-Tech, Duke, UNC, Miami, Virginia, Georgia Tech, Pitt

PAC 16
- North// Cal, Stanford, Washington, Washington St., Oregon, Oregon St., Boise St., Colorado St.
- South// Air Force, Colorado, Arizona, ASU, USC, UCLA, UTEP, Utah


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American
- Appalachian St., UConn, Temple, NMSU, Villanova, WKU, Rice, SMU, Tulane, Tulsa

C-USA
- East // Charlotte, FAU, FIU, Marshall, Old Dominion, WKU
- West // MTSU, North Texas, Rice, Southern Miss, USA, UTSA

MAC
- East // Akron, Buffalo, EMU, Kent St., Toledo, UMass.
- West // Ball St., Bowling Green, CMU, Miami, NIU, WMU

Mountain West
- Mountain // Idaho, Montana, NDSU, New Mexico, Utah St, Wyoming,
- Pacific // Hawaii, Fresno St., Nevada, SDSU, SJSU, UNLV

Sun Belt
- Georgia St, Georgia Southern, Troy, Arkansas St., Louisiana, Sam Houston St., Texas St., ULM
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Old 12-11-2014, 10:26 PM
 
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i like this pac16 set up;

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PAC 16
- West // Cal, Stanford, Washington, Washington St., Oregon, Oregon St., USC, UCLA,
- East // Utah, Colorado, Arizona, ASU, Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Ok. St.
except it would work better as a north/south conference

north=cal, stanford, washington, washington st, oregon, oregon st, colorado, utah

south=arizona, arizona st, usc, ucla, texas, texas tech, oklahoma, oklahoma st.

and the reason for this is that arizona and ucla have developed a pretty intense rivalry since arizona joined the pac. and it would be a shame to limit that rivalry.
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Old 12-11-2014, 10:37 PM
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i like this pac16 set up;



except it would work better as a north/south conference

north=cal, stanford, washington, washington st, oregon, oregon st, colorado, utah

south=arizona, arizona st, usc, ucla, texas, texas tech, oklahoma, oklahoma st.

and the reason for this is that arizona and ucla have developed a pretty intense rivalry since arizona joined the pac. and it would be a shame to limit that rivalry.
Yeah... I already had a Pac 12 school fan tell me the opposite of what you're telling me...
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Old 12-11-2014, 11:09 PM
 
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i like this pac16 set up;



except it would work better as a north/south conference

north=cal, stanford, washington, washington st, oregon, oregon st, colorado, utah

south=arizona, arizona st, usc, ucla, texas, texas tech, oklahoma, oklahoma st.

and the reason for this is that arizona and ucla have developed a pretty intense rivalry since arizona joined the pac. and it would be a shame to limit that rivalry.
This would absolutely never happen- ever. The South would get the recruiting hotbeds of Southern California and Texas...and the North would get the pick of the all the scrawny kids from Oregon and Washington- haha...no.

No, it would be West- UCLA, USC, Stanford, CAL, Oregon, OSU, UW, Wazzu
East- UT, TT, OU, Okie State, Arizona, ASU, CU, Utah

It would be arranged that the western teams would get to play in Texas every 2 or so years and vice versa in Southern California. Zona would be a in a great position with repeated trips to Texas as well. And they need no help in basketball.

This would be a great conference. Now, if we could only convince Texas.

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Old 12-12-2014, 11:42 AM
 
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This would absolutely never happen- ever. The South would get the recruiting hotbeds of Southern California and Texas...and the North would get the pick of the all the scrawny kids from Oregon and Washington- haha...no.

No, it would be West- UCLA, USC, Stanford, CAL, Oregon, OSU, UW, Wazzu
East- UT, TT, OU, Okie State, Arizona, ASU, CU, Utah

It would be arranged that the western teams would get to play in Texas every 2 or so years and vice versa in Southern California. Zona would be a in a great position with repeated trips to Texas as well. And they need no help in basketball.

This would be a great conference. Now, if we could only convince Texas.
i disagree on the recruiting deal. a good recruiter can pull kids from just about anywhere. take mariota for instance, he was born in hawaii, and went to oregon for his college career. and arizona recruits a lot of hawaiians as well.

and like i say, the arizona/ucla rivalry is almost as big as the arizona/asu rivalry, which is why when the pac12 was split into two divisions, arizona and ucla were put in the same division.
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Old 12-12-2014, 08:51 PM
 
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i disagree on the recruiting deal. a good recruiter can pull kids from just about anywhere. take mariota for instance, he was born in hawaii, and went to oregon for his college career. and arizona recruits a lot of hawaiians as well.

and like i say, the arizona/ucla rivalry is almost as big as the arizona/asu rivalry, which is why when the pac12 was split into two divisions, arizona and ucla were put in the same division.
As an Oregon fan I realize a good recruiter can pull kids from all over, but seriously, no way will the Northern teams go for that set-up. Regardless of good recruiters or not, distance is an issue and SoCal and Texas is deep in talent and every team in the Pac-12 tap into California for the majority of their recruits and would love to get more access/exposure in Texas. If Larry Scott even considered that, Stanford and Cal would swing their immense power into play and basically stop that alignment if they couldn't keep the annual rivalry with SC and UCLA. And I am positive the other northern schools would do everything in their power to prevent it.

The only equitable way to split things up would be the original Pac-8 and the Texas/Oklahoma+ Zona schools, and Utah and CU. That makes sense.

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Old 12-12-2014, 09:26 PM
 
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14 teams are a bad thing for college football, 16 would be even worse.

Stick with 12 team conferences.

Have 8 power conferences with 12 teams. 12 team playoff - 8 conference champions plus 4 at large bids. Top 4 teams get a bye in the first round of the playoffs. First two rounds take place at the higher seeds home stadium.
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Old 12-12-2014, 10:17 PM
 
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Here is how I would align the super 8 conferences

ACC
Boston College, Duke, North Carolina, Wake Forest, North Carolina State, Florida State, Clemson, Miami, Maryland, Virginia, Virginia Tech and

Big Ten
Ohio State, Penn State, Purdue, Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Northwestern, Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Notre Dame and Illinois

Big 12
Texas, Texas Tech, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Baylor, Colorado, Nebraska, TCU and Texas A&M

SEC
Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Alabama, Auburn, Ole Miss, Miss State, Arkansas, LSU, Tennessee, Kentucky and Vanderbilt

Pac 12
USC, UCLA, Arizona, Arizona State, Utah, Washington, Washington State, Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, California and Boise State

Big East
Syracuse, Pittsburgh, Louisville, UConn, Marshall, Rutgers, Northern Illinois, South Florida, UCF, East Carolina, West Virginia and Cincinnati

Mountain West
Colorado State, Nevada, San Diego State, Fresno State, Hawaii, UNLV, Air Force, New Mexico, Wyoming, San Jose State, Utah State and BYU

Conference USA
Tulsa, Tulane, Memphis, Houston, Rice, SMU, Louisiana Tech, UTEP, Florida Atlantic, Southern Miss, Toledo and Central Michigan
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Old 12-13-2014, 02:33 AM
 
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that`s a good list but we in the SEC would hate to lose texas a&m and missouri ..
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Old 12-13-2014, 06:25 AM
 
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Northeastern (14):
Boston College, UConn, Army, Rutgers, Navy, Maryland, Temple (7)
Syracuse, Penn State, Pitt, Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Miami-Ohio (7)

Big North (14):
Notre Dame, Purdue, Indiana, Illinois, Northwestern, Wisconsin, Minnesota (7)
Nebraska, Kansas State, Kansas, Missouri, Iowa State, Iowa, Northern Illinois (7)

Appalachian-Atlantic (14):
Virginia, Virginia Tech, Wake Forest, North Carolina, NC State, Duke, East Carolina (7)
Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Louisville, Kentucky, Cincinnati, Marshall, West Virginia (7)

Southeastern (15):
Alabama, Auburn, Georgia Tech, Georgia, Clemson, South Carolina (6)
Florida State, Florida, Central Florida, South Florida, Miami (5)
Memphis, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Southern Miss (4)

Mid South (13):
Texas, Texas A&M, Baylor, Houston, LSU, Tulane (6)
Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, SMU, TCU, Texas Tech, Arkansas, Tulsa (7)

Pacific (13):
Hawaii, San Diego State, Southern Cal, UCLA, Fresno State, Cal, Stanford (7)
Nevada, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Washington State, Boise State (6)

Mountain (13):
UNLV, Arizona, Arizona State, New Mexico, UTEP, New Mexico State (6)
Utah, BYU, Colorado, Colorado State, Air Force, Utah State, Wyoming (7)

Each league could have some "affiliate" or "understudy" members. Like if an understudy team wins big, it would go to the conference's big bowl. Enough good seasons would warrant full membership. These partial members would play half or 3-quarter conference schedules, and their players would be eligible for all conference honors. They can schedule as an independent for the rest of the games. They could have a play-in game to the conference championship.

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