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Old 11-04-2015, 06:41 PM
 
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post # 21 supports the reason why there should not be 8 teams in the playoff .. you cant say a 2 /3 or 4 loss team that got in and won would be the best team in the country ..if a 2012 Wisconsin team had played and won out would they be # 1 with an 11 and 4 record ?
Well they would have faced Stanford in the first round, and these two actually played in the Rose Bowl where Stanford won 20-14.

However, if they were to beat Stanford, and then a 13-0 ND, and finishing with a win against 15-0 Alabama, then yeah they deserve the title.

Any team that runs through three of the best teams in the country one week after another deserves the title.

The 2011 Super Bowl champion NY Giants were 9-7 during the regular season.

2010 Packers were 10-6 as were the 1988 SF 49ers.

In every other sport the team that shines against the best of the best during the playoffs gets the championship.
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Old 11-04-2015, 08:07 PM
 
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FCS does a 24 team playoff. Eleven spots are automatic and 13 are at large. I think the MVFC sent 5 teams to the playoffs last year.
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Old 11-04-2015, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Trumbull/Danbury
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FCS does a 24 team playoff. Eleven spots are automatic and 13 are at large. I think the MVFC sent 5 teams to the playoffs last year.

That's what it should be here: 5 auto spots the champion of the ACC, Big 10, Big 12, SEC & Pac 12, and than 3 at large spots. When you have 5 power conferences, + a power independent and only 4 spots is a recipe for disaster.
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Old 11-04-2015, 10:32 PM
 
Location: So California
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post # 21 supports the reason why there should not be 8 teams in the playoff .. you cant say a 2 /3 or 4 loss team that got in and won would be the best team in the country ..if a 2012 Wisconsin team had played and won out would they be # 1 with an 11 and 4 record ?
Yep they would be national champs. News flash, the best team doesn't always win. Sometimes other teams rise up and take it and sometimes they choke!
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Old 11-05-2015, 04:37 AM
 
Location: alabama.
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then lets just forget the whole system and give everybody a national championship trophy ..
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Old 11-05-2015, 05:46 AM
 
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The 2011 Super Bowl champion NY Giants were 9-7 during the regular season.

2010 Packers were 10-6 as were the 1988 SF 49ers.

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I kinda doubt that would have happened if the NFL had 125 teams .... all I`m saying is you dilute the trophy by increasing the players ..it`s inevitably going to happen .. I just don't like it ..in the 80`s and 90`s when bama meant nothing I would be all for it ...
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Old 11-05-2015, 06:39 AM
 
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I kinda doubt that would have happened if the NFL had 125 teams .... all I`m saying is you dilute the trophy by increasing the players ..it`s inevitably going to happen .. I just don't like it ..in the 80`s and 90`s when bama meant nothing I would be all for it ...
There are 100 plus programs in the FBS. Having an 8 team playoff is not going to dilute anything. Having a 12 team playoff is not going to dilute anything. Having a 16 team playoff is not going to dilute anything. You know what does dilute things? Having 36 bowl games where you have teams that go 6-6 qualify to play in a bowl game.

As it stands now (which is not different than how it was before), you were telling all of college football that the only conferences that matter are the power 5 (and Notre Dame even though they haven't won anything since 1994). If you play in the MAC, American, Mountain West, etc. You have no shot of every playing for, or winning the national title. Even if you ran the table and finished at 12-0, or 13-0, the best you could hope for is to play in a BCS bowl game. Look at Memphis this season. They beat Ole Miss (who beat Alabama) and could go undefeated, yet they won't have a shot to play for the national title.

Like I said before, an 8 team playoff guarantees the winner of the ACC, SEC, Big Ten, Pac 12 and Big 12 all get in plus 3 at large bids. Those 3 at large bids could be used on a team like Memphis to give them a shot.
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Old 11-05-2015, 07:07 AM
 
Location: alabama.
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you familiar with the old saying " even a blind squirrel will find a nut now and then " ..
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Old 11-05-2015, 07:29 AM
 
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There are 100 plus programs in the FBS. Having an 8 team playoff is not going to dilute anything. Having a 12 team playoff is not going to dilute anything. Having a 16 team playoff is not going to dilute anything. You know what does dilute things? Having 36 bowl games where you have teams that go 6-6 qualify to play in a bowl game.

As it stands now (which is not different than how it was before), you were telling all of college football that the only conferences that matter are the power 5 (and Notre Dame even though they haven't won anything since 1994). If you play in the MAC, American, Mountain West, etc. You have no shot of every playing for, or winning the national title. Even if you ran the table and finished at 12-0, or 13-0, the best you could hope for is to play in a BCS bowl game. Look at Memphis this season. They beat Ole Miss (who beat Alabama) and could go undefeated, yet they won't have a shot to play for the national title.

Like I said before, an 8 team playoff guarantees the winner of the ACC, SEC, Big Ten, Pac 12 and Big 12 all get in plus 3 at large bids. Those 3 at large bids could be used on a team like Memphis to give them a shot.

To expand on that and put it in perspective:
There are 20 MLS teams. 20 make the playoffs = 60%
There are 30 NBA teams. 16 make the playoffs = 53.3%
There are 30 NHL teams. 16 make the playoffs = 53.3%
There are 32 NFL teams. 12 get playoff births = 37.5%
There are 30 MLB teams. 10 make the post season = 33.3%
There are 347 NCAA basketball teams. 68 get into the tourney = 19.6%
There are 125 Division 1-AA (FCS) football teams. 24 make the post season = 19.2%
There are 170 Division 2 football teams. 28 make the playoffs = 16.5%
There are 247 Division 3 football teams. 32 make the playoffs = 13%
There are 128 NCAA (FBS) football teams. 4 make the playoffs = 3.1%
Expand to 8 = 6.3%
Expand to 16 = 12.5%

I think it is ridiculous what the MLS, NBA and NHL do. No way over half the teams should be involved.
NFL and MLB are still a bit high at a third +, but not terribly so.

But it is equally ridiculous to have only 3%.
I'm not asking for 16 (which would still be the least amount in any other major sport in this country)
I'm simply saying lets not continue in a system that leaves out the Baylors and TCUs of last season.
Lets not leave out the 2006 Boise St. team who finished unbeaten after their upset of Oklahoma and still got nothing for it.
Lets not leave out a Memphis if they run the table.
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Old 11-05-2015, 07:30 AM
 
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you familiar with the old saying " even a blind squirrel will find a nut now and then " ..
Yes.

But can the blind squirrel find a nut three weeks in a row?

Unlikely.

But if they do, maybe they aren't so blind after all.
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