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Old 11-05-2015, 07:42 AM
 
Location: alabama.
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ok .. I give .. ya`ll win .. but guess what .. there`s still only 4 teams getting in and obviously yours aint one of em ... HA !! role tide .. " I`ll eat them words after we lose to LSU ..
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Old 11-05-2015, 09:55 AM
 
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ok .. I give .. ya`ll win .. but guess what .. there`s still only 4 teams getting in and obviously yours aint one of em ... HA !! role tide .. " I`ll eat them words after we lose to LSU ..
Mine is LSU.
Good luck this weekend!
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Old 11-05-2015, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Trumbull/Danbury
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To expand on that and put it in perspective:
There are 20 MLS teams. 20 make the playoffs = 60%
There are 30 NBA teams. 16 make the playoffs = 53.3%
There are 30 NHL teams. 16 make the playoffs = 53.3%
There are 32 NFL teams. 12 get playoff births = 37.5%
There are 30 MLB teams. 10 make the post season = 33.3%
There are 347 NCAA basketball teams. 68 get into the tourney = 19.6%
There are 125 Division 1-AA (FCS) football teams. 24 make the post season = 19.2%
There are 170 Division 2 football teams. 28 make the playoffs = 16.5%
There are 247 Division 3 football teams. 32 make the playoffs = 13%
There are 128 NCAA (FBS) football teams. 4 make the playoffs = 3.1%
Expand to 8 = 6.3%
Expand to 16 = 12.5%

I think it is ridiculous what the MLS, NBA and NHL do. No way over half the teams should be involved.
NFL and MLB are still a bit high at a third +, but not terribly so.

But it is equally ridiculous to have only 3%.
I'm not asking for 16 (which would still be the least amount in any other major sport in this country)
I'm simply saying lets not continue in a system that leaves out the Baylors and TCUs of last season.
Lets not leave out the 2006 Boise St. team who finished unbeaten after their upset of Oklahoma and still got nothing for it.
Lets not leave out a Memphis if they run the table.
It's not the "playoffs" but of the 347 division 1 basketball teams 32 more make the NIT & the CIT and 16 others make the CBI. So, that's another 80 schools that are playing post season games, so that's really 42.7% (148 of 347) of division 1 basketball school's that play post season games.

Unlike the FCS, & division 2, division 3 has a couple (I think) 4 ECAC "bowl games" for Northeast, East & South region teams which I think take 8 extra teams. So, that new ratio of division 3 teams in the "playoffs" is really 16.2% (40 of 247).

FBS has about 39 bowl games (78) teams, so the new ratio of FBS teams making the playoffs is a staggering 64.1% (82 of 128). It's not the playoffs, but those other 78 teams get another game and extra practice time which the non bowl teams don't get.
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Old 11-05-2015, 01:05 PM
 
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It's not the "playoffs" but of the 347 division 1 basketball teams 32 more make the NIT & the CIT and 16 others make the CBI. So, that's another 80 schools that are playing post season games, so that's really 42.7% (148 of 347) of division 1 basketball school's that play post season games.

Unlike the FCS, & division 2, division 3 has a couple (I think) 4 ECAC "bowl games" for Northeast, East & South region teams which I think take 8 extra teams. So, that new ratio of division 3 teams in the "playoffs" is really 16.2% (40 of 247).

FBS has about 39 bowl games (78) teams, so the new ratio of FBS teams making the playoffs is a staggering 64.1% (82 of 128). It's not the playoffs, but those other 78 teams get another game and extra practice time which the non bowl teams don't get.

Yeah, if you can't win the championship when you are done, it isn't really a "playoff" and isn't really what I was talking about here.

Unless your point was "There are too many bowl games".

In which case I would agree.
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Old 11-05-2015, 02:46 PM
 
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It should go without saying that there are way too many bowl games. Just look at how many there were in 1998 and then 2015 - things have gotten out of hand. I don't get how a lot of them make money - you have less than half full stadiums, the two teams need to be paid out, most of the games are probably not generating big ratings. Even the teams that go to the bowl games end up losing money in some cases as they cannot sell their allotment of tickets. I mean, who doesn't want to make a trip in late December to Shreveport, LA to watch their 7-5, or 6-6 team play in the somethingsomething.com bowl?

Personally, have an 8 team playoff and then 15 bowl games and leave it at that.
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Old 11-05-2015, 04:24 PM
 
Location: AriZona
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As it is, too many bowl games already exist because too many people want their 6-6 team in a bowl. Now, too many people are beginning to push for longer & longer playoffs. Why?

In order to get their 6-6 team in a playoff game.

Enough!
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Old 11-05-2015, 04:27 PM
 
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As it is, too many bowl games already exist because too many people want their 6-6 team in a bowl. Now, too many people are beginning to push for longer & longer playoffs. Why?

In order to get their 6-6 team in a playoff game.

Enough!

I am just going to assume you didn't really read much of this conversation.
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Old 11-05-2015, 04:31 PM
 
Location: So California
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ok .. I give .. ya`ll win .. but guess what .. there`s still only 4 teams getting in and obviously yours aint one of em ... HA !! role tide .. " I`ll eat them words after we lose to LSU ..

Glad you came around, cause under your system all alabama has to do is win the sec to go to the national title game every year. Its not going to be that easy any more!

We will look forward to that, but I think 'Bamas got two more losses in them...maybe 3 with the bowl game
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Old 11-05-2015, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Trumbull/Danbury
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Yeah, if you can't win the championship when you are done, it isn't really a "playoff" and isn't really what I was talking about here.

Unless your point was "There are too many bowl games".

In which case I would agree.

I think the minimum record for being eligible for a bowl game should be 8-4, so yes I think there's about 30 bowl games too many, but since money talks and if Colgate pays the NCAA $3 million for the Colgate whitening "who gives a $#!t" toilet bowl there will only be MORE bowl games in which case 4-8 will be the new 6-6. Btw, with 82 teams playing in bowl games (the 78 for the 39 bowls + the 4 playoffs team) will there even be enough teams eligible, or will we have to start dipping into the 5-7 pool this year??

Edit: I just did some counting. There's already 12 teams that are currently ineligible (meaning they have 7 or more losses), there are 15 teams that have 6 losses, and 20 teams that currently have 5 losses. If those 35 teams all becoming ineligible (and all 35 have at least 3 regular season games left), that'll leave 47 teams that'll finish 5-7 or worse. So, if all of those teams finish 5-7 or worse, that eliminates 47 teams, so we already have a shortage of teams (3 teams 82-79). And I'm not even including those teams that are sitting with 4 losses! I don't think it happens, but I think at least 35 teams end up being ineligible, so if there's only 10 teams left how do you distinguish one crappy 6-6 power 5 team from another crappy power 5 6-6 team to a Sun Belt/MAC team that finishes 7-5??

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Old 11-05-2015, 07:31 PM
 
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There were already sub .500 teams in bowls last season if I'm not mistaken.
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