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Old 11-09-2015, 10:29 AM
 
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University of Missouri President steps down / resigns.
College football is big business.

 
Old 11-09-2015, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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The folks that cried wolf were last month demanding a statue of Jefferson be removed because it is racist... so many racial tensions stories its a little/LOT worn out
What, Thomas Jefferson?

Or did you mean Jefferson Davis? The U. of Texas recently removed Jeff Davis' statue from a prominent location, along with Woodrow Wilson's. Also changed the name of a building - the early university regent was a rabid Confederate.

But I think they should leave Robert E. Lee's where it is (at UT).

Can't blame the players protesting the lack of action by the Mizzou president, if they had a valid beef.
 
Old 11-09-2015, 11:04 AM
 
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Money talks. These athletes are the ones bringing millions to these schools, it's almost like sometimes they forget how powerful they are.

This just makes the clippers players failing to boycott look like Morons
 
Old 11-09-2015, 11:05 AM
 
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they had no valid beef: here are the demands:


I: We demand that the University of Missouri System President, Tim Wolfe, writes a handwritten apology to the Concerned Student 1-*9-*5-0 demonstrators and holds a press conference in the Mizzou Student Center reading the letter. In the letter and at the press conference, Tim Wolfe must acknowledge his white male privilege, recognize that systems of oppression exist, and provide a verbal commitment to fulfilling Concerned Student 1-9-5-*0 demands. We want Tim Wolfe to admit to his gross negligence, allowing his driver to hit one of the demonstrators, consenting to the physical violence of bystanders, and lastly refusing to intervene when Columbia Police Department used excessive force with demonstrators.

II. We demand the immediate removal of Tim Wolfe as UM system president. After his removal a new amendment to UM system policies must be established to have all future UM system president and Chancellor positions be selected by a collective of students, staff, and faculty of diverse backgrounds.


III. We demand that the University of Missouri meets the Legion of Black Collegians' demands that were presented in 1969 for the betterment of the black community.


IV. We demand that the University of Missouri creates and enforces comprehensive racial awareness and inclusion curriculum throughout all campus departments and units, mandatory for all students, faculty, staff, and administration. This curriculum must be vetted, maintained, and overseen by a board comprised of students, staff, and faculty of color.


V. We demand that by the academic year 2017-2018, the University of Missouri increases the percentage of black faculty and staff campus-wide to 10%.


VI. We demand that the University of Missouri composes a strategic 10 year plan by May 1, 2016 that will increase retention rates for marginalized students, sustain diversity curriculum and training, and promote a more safe and inclusive campus.

VII. We demand that the University of Missouri increases funding and resources for the University of Missouri Counseling Center for the purpose of hiring additional mental health professionals -- particularly those of color, boosting mental health outreach and programming across campus, increasing campus-*wide awareness and visibility of the counseling center, and reducing lengthy wait times for prospective clients.


VIII. We demand that the University of Missouri increases funding, resources, and personnel for the social justices centers on campus for the purpose of hiring additional professionals, particularly those of color, boosting outreach and programming across campus, and increasing campus-*wide awareness and visibility.





and if the President refuses or doesn't agree to every demand he must go.



All this is absurd......the board instead to stand up to this properly they made the President resign because they would lose 1 million dollars if the team didn't play BYU.....they sent the wrong message and wrong precedent.

They destroyed a man's career because he didn't jump high enough for them? please!....and for what, this doesn't make race relations on campus between white and black any better......this is the MOB RULES basically and for what?

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Old 11-09-2015, 11:10 AM
 
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people who are celebrating this have no clue what were the outrages demands of the protesters....how can any President work with extremists like this group....look at their outrages demands. I feel bad for the President and shame on the board to give to the demands because they didn't want to lose 1 million dollars if the football team didn't play BYU.


those players sign a contract to play every game for a scholarship. That's like NFL players breaking up a contract and not playing a NFL game because they disagree with the commissioner and making outrages demands. There should be consequences for that.
 
Old 11-09-2015, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Bronx, New York
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Student demands with responses in bold

I: We demand that the University of Missouri System President, Tim Wolfe, writes a handwritten apology to the Concerned Student 1-*9-*5-0 demonstrators and holds a press conference in the Mizzou Student Center reading the letter. In the letter and at the press conference, Tim Wolfe must acknowledge his white male privilege, recognize that systems of oppression exist, and provide a verbal commitment to fulfilling Concerned Student 1-9-5-*0 demands. We want Tim Wolfe to admit to his gross negligence, allowing his driver to hit one of the demonstrators, consenting to the physical violence of bystanders, and lastly refusing to intervene when Columbia Police Department used excessive force with demonstrators.

Any harm to any student on any campus would normally result in a speedy hearing; a speedy hearing benefits both the accuser and the accused, correct? It appears that the lack of a speedy resolution is at the heart of issues at Mizzou.

The 'white male privilege...oppression exists' part, while understandable from angry students, could be considered frivoluous, and could be cleaned up by a supportive academic advisor to the students, which I hope they have.


II. We demand the immediate removal of Tim Wolfe as UM system president. After his removal a new amendment to UM system policies must be established to have all future UM system president and Chancellor positions be selected by a collective of students, staff, and faculty of diverse backgrounds.

The first part is already done. Input from all circles concerning selection of a chancellor, from a public school, seems reasonable.


III. We demand that the University of Missouri meets the Legion of Black Collegians' demands that were presented in 1969 for the betterment of the black community.

One would have to see the demands from '69. If there is a perception among many that a lot of things have not changed in 46 years, that's a perception that has to be addressed one way or another.


IV. We demand that the University of Missouri creates and enforces comprehensive racial awareness and inclusion curriculum throughout all campus departments and units, mandatory for all students, faculty, staff, and administration. This curriculum must be vetted, maintained, and overseen by a board comprised of students, staff, and faculty of color.


My undergrad alma matter put on a festival called Celebrate Difference, in the late 80s. Put on by various groups, it was very successful in educating each other about everyone's different backgrounds.


V. We demand that by the academic year 2017-2018, the University of Missouri increases the percentage of black faculty and staff campus-wide to 10%.


A request to diversify the campus faculty with qualified professors from various backgrounds seems very reasonable.

VI. We demand that the University of Missouri composes a strategic 10 year plan by May 1, 2016 that will increase retention rates for marginalized students, sustain diversity curriculum and training, and promote a more safe and inclusive campus.

My undergrad alma matter has what's called an Office of Supportive Services, which gives similar support, and aid, to those same students mentioned in the Mizzou students demands, although the emphasis is on socioeconomic background as opposed to race. It has those programs due to state requirements. It works. The switch to socioeconomic background (Although I do ask how many Mizzou kids are from the hoods of St. Louis and Kansas City) make this a very reasonable demand.

VII. We demand that the University of Missouri increases funding and resources for the University of Missouri Counseling Center for the purpose of hiring additional mental health professionals -- particularly those of color, boosting mental health outreach and programming across campus, increasing campus-*wide awareness and visibility of the counseling center, and reducing lengthy wait times for prospective clients.


Mental health support can be beneficial to everyone, given the difficult psychological adjustments of students, particularly freshmen, regardless of background, to the college experience.

VIII. We demand that the University of Missouri increases funding, resources, and personnel for the social justices centers on campus for the purpose of hiring additional professionals, particularly those of color, boosting outreach and programming across campus, and increasing campus-*wide awareness and visibility.


There are corporations that have diversity offices, and that are committed to diversity. This sounds very reasonable, given that this is being done in the 'real world'.
 
Old 11-09-2015, 02:25 PM
 
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requests and demands are 2 different things and going on a hunger strike sounds something children do when they don't get their way.....they can take it to the board for consideration and budget like adults.


lets look at the demands and how this circus started : Rush had the best take out of this circus. Institutions of Higher Victimization Are Getting Exactly What They Deserve - The Rush Limbaugh Show
 
Old 11-09-2015, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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those players sign a contract to play every game for a scholarship. That's like NFL players breaking up a contract and not playing a NFL game because they disagree with the commissioner and making outrages demands. There should be consequences for that.
So they're employees of the university?
 
Old 11-09-2015, 04:56 PM
 
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So they're employees of the university?

not exactly........
contract :an agreement between two or more parties for the doing or not doing of something specified.



The school pays for your scholarship and living and food expenses and you play a sport for the University and agree to the ethic rules of the school program..........that is the agreement each student athlete agrees to......Unless the School promised something else which doesn't violate the laws and rules.

What do you think the student/athletes signs when they pick a school to play?....you think he is giving his autograph for fans.
 
Old 11-09-2015, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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I really don't have much of a dog in this hunt... However, if their scholarships can be taken away for them not performing on demand, that sounds like they are employees - which is a slippery slope that universities don't want to go down. If they are simply on scholarship, can they not engage in protest activities like any other scholarship student? It's not as simple as it seems on the surface, that's all I'm saying...
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