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View Poll Results: Do you think Colorado & Utah belongs as part of the Pac 12 Conference?
YES 12 63.16%
NO 7 36.84%
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Old 01-02-2016, 09:30 PM
 
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What are the chances that we will ever see a Colorado-Indiana Rose Bowl?
better than a utah/byu rose bowl.
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Old 01-02-2016, 10:52 PM
 
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better than a utah/byu rose bowl.
That is funny!!!! Vegas would buy the bowl out.

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Old 01-02-2016, 11:20 PM
 
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That is funny!!!! Vegas would buy the bowl out.

MSR
i would like to see the odds of it happening.
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Old 01-02-2016, 11:29 PM
 
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Utah belongs in the PAC-12. As was mentioned previously, there are many points with which I agree. Count Utah's Gymnastics, Skiing and even Men's basketball program. Utah has built the new facilities needed, except an expansion to the football stadium. I wish UT had had the training, conditioning, practice facilities we do now when we beat Alabama in the 2009 Sugar Bowl. Utah's Gymnastics program has more titles (as champs) and individually than potentially every other PAC-12 School. They sell out the Huntsman Center for all meets. What other university does that?

Utah has a long-standing history of working academically with Stanford, UCLA and Washington in particular. There are databases and more basic science, a genetic/molecular biologist Noble Peace Prize winner at Utah that allow the Pac-12 Schools to compete for grants UCLA, Washington and Stanford could not receive previously. Howard Hughes and the genetic work is in there too.

Colorado is hard for me. They will never be a natural rivalry of Utah's. I thought CO was a stretch but I know the PAC-10 needed two universities.

Boise State doesn't belong nor does BYU, IMO. BYU is far more than the religion aspect. When a university is 50 miles south of Utah, it just isn't a good fit. Part has been the personnel. Getting rid of Mendenhall might be a really positive first step. Give him credit though, he tried to enter the PAC-12 by coaching at Oregon State. He called Anderson to ask if he could use him as a reference and Anderson applied for the job.

BYU needs to deal with their personnel first and their expectations of what they can bring to a conference.. But unlike the other universities, they don't have a medical, dental, optometry, veterinarian school etc. BYU has a highly ranked law school, but reportedly, Gonzaga's getting higher in rankings too. I say give Sitake time to get BYU thinking like Lavelle Edwards use to. The expectations of what BYU can deliver vs. what they think they deliver are not the same.

If Colorado didn't stay in the PAC-12, what is the best school to bring in? What's kind of cool about Utah is we're recruiting abroad and from other areas of the country that the players didn't want to be in a west coast state. The pump is primed in FL and elsewhere. Likewise, high school kids in traditionally Utah's area are getting scouted far more. Watch for a kid out of Jackson Hole, WY. Everyone has offered him a scholarship. It will probably come down to Stanford and Utah. I don't know if Stanford would have pursued a WY high school student before Utah was in the PAC-12.

Interesting discussion.

MSR
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Old 01-02-2016, 11:33 PM
 
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If Colorado didn't stay in the PAC-12, what is the best school to bring in?.
Fresno State or maybe Hawaii.
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Old 01-04-2016, 12:33 PM
 
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What are the chances that we will ever see a Colorado-Indiana Rose Bowl?
Better than the chances of an E Michigan - New Mexico State National Championship game!
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Old 01-04-2016, 09:52 PM
 
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It was a good win for the Pac 12, but if a win can be bad for Utah it was. It was the flukiest first quarter Ive ever seen. Ive seen teams give away touchdowns before, but not 5! After the first quarter it was 35-0 Utah and they only had something like 60 yards, in fact BYU outgained them even the first quarter. Utah then barely held on...they didnt look good.
No, they didn't look good. I agree with you. Something about 14 starters injured, having finals and the first game weekend. But UT's D was enough the PAC-12 will take the win. There were other factors too. What other top 25 team had their men's basketball team playing at Madison Square Guarden and beat Duke in overtime like the Utah men did, in a rematch from the Sweet 16 of 2015? The coaches had to return from scouting trips. BYU knew they were headed there on Wed and got 12K tickets. UT got around 6-7K. But it was the injuries and who couldn't play that mattered the most.

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Old 01-04-2016, 09:58 PM
 
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Fresno State or maybe Hawaii.
I actually find HI an interesting thought. They play hard in the games I've seen. I don't know how many sports they could compete in, but they would liven up football some.

Too bad UCSD doesn't meet the sports criteria. They would be a nice, logical team.

Fresno is tougher than many realize. I'm just not sure how CAL and Stanford would feel having another team so close.

MSR
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Old 01-04-2016, 10:58 PM
 
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Better than the chances of an E Michigan - New Mexico State National Championship game!
That game would be right up my alley. I don't like Alabama and am not impressed with Clemson. It was intriguing when Boise State was mixing things up, but Eastern Michigan and New Mexico State? That would blow the college football establishments mind. First they have to get good enough to be relevant, and even then I doubt that the committee would admit them to the dance.
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Old 01-04-2016, 11:06 PM
 
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I actually find HI an interesting thought. They play hard in the games I've seen. I don't know how many sports they could compete in, but they would liven up football some.

Too bad UCSD doesn't meet the sports criteria. They would be a nice, logical team.

Fresno is tougher than many realize. I'm just not sure how CAL and Stanford would feel having another team so close.

MSR
UCSD doesn't get much attention athletically, but San Diego State is a FBS school, had a decent year, and might be a possibility if (a) they improve their stature and (b) the Pac-12 either expands or needs to replace a Colorado or Utah.
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