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Old 06-21-2016, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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Baylor certainly doesn't want that report to become public.


The school has had several years to make things right by the victims, but they tried their damnedest to cover it up. And to think that Briles is innocent in the coverup? Laughable. That guy was at the center of it all and to think he wasn't calls into question the competence of those who don't. Sloughing off the victims by saying "complaints were reported" then letting it go is the weakest defense, just like JoePa.


Again, Briles said he wanted to "clear his name", yet settled to keep it quiet. A man with real character wouldn't do that, and his reputation has caught up with the liar.

 
Old 06-21-2016, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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It appears to be expanding outside the football program:


Quote:
A federal lawsuit filed Monday against Baylor University accuses the nation's largest Baptist school of creating a "hunting ground for sexual predators."

The lawsuit, brought by a former Baylor student, is the third in recent months to claim the school was indifferent to or ignored claims of sexual assault and didn't enforce federal general discrimination protections. Baylor demoted former president and chancellor Ken Starr after an outside law firm found the school had mishandled assault allegations for years.

The latest case, brought by a woman identified only as Jane Doe, says she was drugged and abducted from an off-campus residence known as "The Rugby House" in February 2015. The lawsuit does not name her assailant but said he is not a member of Baylor's rugby club team.

The woman did not file a police report because she was too embarrassed, and it was her mother who called Baylor officials, according to the alleged victim's attorney, Paula Elliott.

The lawsuit said Baylor officials indicated there were reports of as many as five previously reported assaults at the same residence. According to the lawsuit, Baylor officials initially attempted to help identify the attacker, and told her there were two more reported victims with similar experiences at the house.

But school investigators stopped all correspondence with the woman after five weeks and did not schedule an administrative hearing in her case. The woman dropped out of Baylor in summer 2015 and moved home out of state, Elliott said.

The school's own investigation, parts of which were released last month, demonstrated that Baylor ignored rape claims at the cost of safety to its students for years, the lawsuit said, adding that, "Baylor and the Baylor regents had created a hunting ground for sexual predators to freely prey upon innocent, unsuspecting female students, with no concern of reprisal or consequences."

Much of Baylor's investigation focused on allegations surrounding the football team. Head coach Art Briles was fired May 26 after the investigation found football coaches and staff had improper contact with complainants, and interfered or impeded school and potentially criminal investigations.

Attorneys for the woman who filed Monday's lawsuit say her case demonstrates the problem went far beyond athletics, and that no one had been warned about previous reports at the house where she was attacked.

"(S)exual assault issues at Baylor were not an 'athletic department issue,' but were an institution-wide problem that Baylor and Baylor regents failed to properly address," the lawsuit said.

Baylor is already attempting to settle a lawsuit filed in March by former student Jasmin Hernandez, who was raped by former football player Tevin Elliott, who was later sentenced to 20 years in prison. Hernandez' lawsuit claims Baylor knew Tevin Elliott had a history of assaults, failed to protect her and others who were attacked, and ignored her pleas when she sought help.

The Associated Press generally doesn't identify sexual assault victims, but Hernandez has spoken publicly to draw attention to the case. Another lawsuit was filed last week by three women who were all identified only as Jane Doe.
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http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireSto...sault-40000514
 
Old 06-21-2016, 12:25 PM
 
Location: OKIE-Ville
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How was that a nice "dodge"? Im implying that no one knows what the Pepper Hamilton oral report said, so the BOR could claim anything they want in that write up that they posted and we would never know any different. It wouldn't be the first time the BOR has gone out of their way to try and cover their own tails.

Why would PH come out and say anything? Unless the real PH report somehow gets released, no one will never know for sure what was in that report. I would imagine in the Baylor contract with Pepper Hamilton that PH isn't allowed to comment on details.

Who said anything about meeting with complainants individually to keep the situation hush-hush? Again, why would the complainants go to a football coach/staff about an allegation as serious as sexual assault before first reporting it to police and/or the Baylor administration?

If Briles was "justly" fired, then he wouldn't of just been paid tens of millions of dollars to settle the wrongful termination suit.. perhaps you need to open your "grizzly eyes".



How does it "keep getting worse"..? If you were competent enough to understand what was going on you would see that y'all have completely unrealistic expectations. But since all you want to do is slander Briles, here is a nice breakdown of why he couldn't apologize.




"Who he truly is".. which is..? What dont you understand about the legality of the situation? Its just more hypocrisy and sensationalism from the media.

Fortunately most Baylor fans/alumni dont see eye to eye with the victim blamers.
You're position is basically that the Baylor BOR took Pepper Hamilton's report and altered it to fit their own narrative. That in itself, would be the BOR opening themselves up to more legal scrutiny. Embellishing/diminishing or altering facts given by Pepper Hamilton & Co. is a form of lying, that's a crime and the Baylor BOR would be liable. No way would they risk that. They're obviously very stupid, but they're not that stupid.

You don't think Pepper Hamilton would come out and say "No, that's not what I said, what the BOR are claiming, is not the full picture and full scope of my oral report to them."

And again, just being evasive?....or you really can't read that well.....in the Pepper Hamilton report the initiative was taken by the coaching staff to meet with complainants. Conducting their own investigation instead of immediately passing it on to higher-ups and the police is a crime. It's not all that hard to understand, but you'll ask some lame question as if you don't have comprehension skills.

You're not TexasTallest anymore. You're Texas'Dodgiest.

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Old 06-21-2016, 12:34 PM
 
Location: OKIE-Ville
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Originally Posted by ScoPro View Post
Baylor certainly doesn't want that report to become public.


The school has had several years to make things right by the victims, but they tried their damnedest to cover it up. And to think that Briles is innocent in the coverup? Laughable. That guy was at the center of it all and to think he wasn't calls into question the competence of those who don't. Sloughing off the victims by saying "complaints were reported" then letting it go is the weakest defense, just like JoePa.


Again, Briles said he wanted to "clear his name", yet settled to keep it quiet. A man with real character wouldn't do that, and his reputation has caught up with the liar.
1000% true.
 
Old 06-21-2016, 03:15 PM
 
Location: The Bayou City
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This post kind of goes against everything you wrote in the post above it, dont you think? Please explain how Briles was "at the center of it all" with this one..

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Originally Posted by ScoPro View Post
It appears to be expanding outside the football program:




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http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireSto...sault-40000514


Surprise, surprise.. As I've been saying all along, this is a university problem, not a football problem. But for some reason y'all refuse to listen to any logical reasoning provided and continue to take the medias clickbait articles as the end all be all truth on the matter, as if the media is a definitive authority or something.
 
Old 06-22-2016, 12:38 AM
 
Location: Murphy, North Carolina
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https://twitter.com/john_shinn

Scroll down some for what he's saying about Baylor.

I want the Pepper Hamilton report released. And the BoR better not alter it before they do.

SMU killed the SWC with their bulls**t.

And now Baylor's trying to kill the Big 12 too, it seems like.
 
Old 06-22-2016, 12:46 AM
 
Location: The Bayou City
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Originally Posted by SouthernTiger099 View Post
https://twitter.com/john_shinn

Scroll down some for what he's saying about Baylor.

I want the Pepper Hamilton report released. And the BoR better not alter it before they do.
The part about the statement being released tomorrow?

Yeah, I think just about everyone wants the PH report released except for the BOR.
 
Old 06-22-2016, 02:31 AM
 
Location: Murphy, North Carolina
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Originally Posted by TexasTallest View Post
The part about the statement being released tomorrow?

Yeah, I think just about everyone wants the PH report released except for the BOR.
Yep. I swear to god, if they alter it before it's released...
 
Old 06-22-2016, 02:54 AM
 
Location: The Bayou City
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Yep. I swear to god, if they alter it before it's released...
If it's an "official" full document from PH it should hopefully be legit. Most Baylor alumni have been left wondering what the BOR is so afraid of/has to hide.. We deserve to know.
 
Old 06-22-2016, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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So after supposedly ignoring a conference request for info on the situation several weeks ago, the Bowlsby sent this letter to Baylor:


The Big 12 Board of Directors is gravely and deeply concerned by media reports about activities involving the athletics program at Baylor University. On May 24, 2016, the Big 12 Board requested a full accounting of the circumstances surrounding the sexual assaults at the University. At this time the Board is only privy to information that has been made available to the public.

Today, Big 12 Commissioner Bob Bowlsby sent a letter to Baylor University Interim President David Garland once again requesting all documents associated with the investigations of sexual assaults at Baylor. This request is for written materials as well as any information that has been conveyed orally to University leadership or to its Board of Regents including, but not limited to, the unedited written or verbal information from Pepper Hamilton, omitting only the names of any involved students. Internal documents pertinent to the investigation have also been requested.

Because many of the incidents at Baylor reportedly involve student-athletes, the Conference is appropriately concerned with discovery of the facts. The Big 12 is primarily configured to facilitate fair competition among its members and compliance to the rules of both the Conference and NCAA. To that end, full disclosure is vital to assess the impact on the Big 12.

"All of our member universities consider student safety and security to be paramount among institutional responsibilities," said Bowlsby. "The Big 12 Board of Directors, each member of the Conference and its student-athletes want to convey that our thoughts, concerns and sympathies are with the Baylor survivors and their families."

http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArtic...CLID=211028434
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