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Old 12-04-2016, 10:29 AM
 
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My vote would be:

1. Alabama
2. Washington
3. Clemson
4. Penn State

I think OSU has a decent argument, but I can't put them over a team that beat OSU and won the Big Ten championship. We'll find out a little later today if the committee agrees.
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Old 12-04-2016, 10:36 AM
 
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The rankings are in:

#1 Alabama
#2 Clemson
#3 Ohio State
#4 Washington
#5 Penn State
#6 Michigan
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Old 12-04-2016, 10:49 AM
 
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The rankings are in:

#1 Alabama
#2 Clemson
#3 Ohio State
#4 Washington
#5 Penn State
#6 Michigan
But apparently the nimrods who vote on it are going to be more taken with the fact two loss Penn State seemed more impressive lately versus one loss/higher ranked Washington who won their conference championship convincingly (30 points). Little wonder this country can't get voting right on anything...
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Old 12-04-2016, 11:44 AM
 
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Oh yeah, make sure to bring politics into this.
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Old 12-04-2016, 11:45 AM
 
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That loss to Pittsburgh came back to bite Penn State in the ass.

Ohio State going anyway, is not a surprise to me.
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Old 12-04-2016, 01:00 PM
 
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That loss to Pittsburgh came back to bite Penn State in the ass.

Ohio State going anyway, is not a surprise to me.
Did anyone seriously believe that this committee would remove Ohio State?
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Old 12-04-2016, 01:11 PM
 
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I think what the committee has just said is:

Yes Conference championships are valuable and highly regarded, BUT when there are 4 teams from Power 5 conferences with 1 loss or less they will be the 4 in the playoff.

Secondly, scheduling DOES matter, though it can bite you in the ass. For example if Washington had picked up another loss, and had been a 2 loss conference champ then certainly Penn St or Oklahoma would have gotten the nod ahead of them BECAUSE of their week SOS.

If you lose 2 games you better hope there are less than 4 who do not. THEN you can point to a conference championship and a tough SOS to get you in ahead of other 2 loss teams. So far we haven't seen that scenario play out, but no doubt we will at some point.

So you MIGHT have teams who back away from scheduling tougher non-con games (which is a step backwards IMO), BUT they will be doing so knowing that if they have a letdown that will hurt their chances.

A team like Ohio St. just made clear that you beat another conference's champion in non-con play and that carries pretty good weight.

Fact of the matter is Ohio St has a MUCH stronger resume than Penn St. regardless of the one 3 point loss head to head.

You can't use that ONE game and then disregard Penn ST. getting blown out by 50 or whatever, AND losing to a 4 loss Pittsburgh. That's just not the way it works in real life.
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Old 12-04-2016, 01:14 PM
 
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Did anyone seriously believe that this committee would remove Ohio State?
I think some people were HOPING and they were pointing to 2014, when the committee used the "not a conference champion" excuse for leaving out TCU who fell from #3 to #6 after a 50 point win.

The BIG difference (at least IMO) is that they didn't exclude TCU in favor of a 2-loss conference champion, which is what they would have had to do this season to remove Ohio State.
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Old 12-04-2016, 01:43 PM
 
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I think the committee got it wrong this year. I think Penn State is playing as good or better than OSU, just took them a while to get there. OSU barely escaped with a win at a 9 loss MSU, and barely beat a Michigan team that lost to Iowa. They still needed help from the refs to beat Michigan even though Michigan gave the ball to OSU 3 times. If head to head doesn't matter, maybe Michigan should have got the spot instead of OSU?
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Old 12-04-2016, 01:54 PM
 
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I think the committee got it wrong this year. I think Penn State is playing as good or better than OSU, just took them a while to get there. OSU barely escaped with a win at a 9 loss MSU, and barely beat a Michigan team that lost to Iowa. They still needed help from the refs to beat Michigan even though Michigan gave the ball to OSU 3 times. If head to head doesn't matter, maybe Michigan should have got the spot instead of OSU?
Head to head DOES matter, but it isn't the ONLY thing that matters.

Fact is Ohio St. has ONE LOSS. Anybody else you want to put in front of them has 2 losses. It really is that simple.

Michigan doesn't turn the ball over so many times, they beat Ohio St., play Wisc for the B1G championship and are in the CFP as the #2 ahead of Clemson.
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