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Old 12-17-2016, 08:53 AM
 
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The Minnesota football team voted this morning to end their boycott; they will play in the Holiday Bowl against Washington State.

Minnesota Golden Gophers football team ends boycott, will prepare for Holiday Bowl
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Old 12-17-2016, 06:58 PM
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I think they need to figure it out by the beginning of next week. Pretty sure if there isn't a resolution by say Tuesday (one week from the Bowl), the Bowl invites Northern Illinois and move on.

They may not even wait that long, and I can't really blame them.
Yes if they make a change they should give the N.Illinois team a chance or any other team to practice prepare for the game.
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Old 12-17-2016, 07:03 PM
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The Minnesota football team voted this morning to end their boycott; they will play in the Holiday Bowl against Washington State.

Minnesota Golden Gophers football team ends boycott, will prepare for Holiday Bowl
Well I guess that puts an end to it...
This football culture that they are Gods on campus needs to end...this coming from a die hard Buckeye fan!
Thank you all for your replies
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Old 12-18-2016, 09:56 AM
 
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Well I guess that puts an end to it...
This football culture that they are Gods on campus needs to end...this coming from a die hard Buckeye fan!
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Unless there are arrests made, some **** ruined a lot of reputations.
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Old 12-21-2016, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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Hennepin County DA is reopening the criminal investigation...initial investigation was quickly cleared by the same DA's office


sounds like it may have transitioned from consensual sex to resistance at some point in the evening


4 (or 5?) of the suspended players were involved sexually with the woman, the others were apparently uncooperative or not being honest with the U's internal investigation


apparently more than just the 4 or 5 players were also involved in the incident


the Gopher players ended their boycott after reading the woman's statement in the university report


didn't read the reports myself but given the history of men's athletics at this long-running, bad-joke of a university, I wouldn't be shocked that charges are reinstated.


links to 2 reports are contained here... KSTP Exclusive: 80-Page Report Outlines U of M Investigation into Gophers Football Players | KSTP.com
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Old 12-25-2016, 07:11 AM
 
Location: Bronx, New York
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The Minnesota situation is a prime example of the importance of due process! When the cries for personal conduct policies came out, in wake of Ray Rice, there was a sentiment that did advocate for due process. As a response, any due process talk was interpreted as insensitive to the rights of the victim. In turn, the 'due process' corner was silenced, without regard for the ramifications of that silencing!

The Minnesota case highlights the need to preserve a basic right of the accused; to either remain silent and put the burden of proof on the accuser or authority, or to have their side of the story heard; to confront their accuser, or if disciplined, to right to be given the reason for it......!
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Old 12-28-2016, 12:07 AM
 
Location: Salinas, CA
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Congrats to the Gophers on their 17-12 Holiday Bowl win! The defense rose to the occasion. Meanwhile, I heard about the petition to dismiss Coach Claeys. While the WSU Cougars lost, the biggest losers were those naysayers so reflexively quick to condemn an entire team and coach for the alleged actions of ten players even though no charges were filed. Those ten players were not allowed to play in the bowl game last I checked.

Sure, Coach Claeys spoke too soon in support of the two day boycott by the players, but I forgive him. He made a mistake. Going forward, he should have a discussion with President Kaler and the regents so everyone can be on the same page should something like this happen again. There is a strong bond that usually develops between coaches and players at the end of a season. Coach Claeys should apologize for speaking too soon and be given the opportunity to improve going forward. A third football coach in less than three years is a major adjustment and there is no guarantee he will not react similar to Claeys regarding the team. They should only change coaches if they objectively find one that will improve the team's future performance even more. I doubt they will make a change after a 9-4 season ending with a bowl victory.

Does anyone remember how millions of Americans forgave our next President Trump for saying a decade ago it is perfectly OK to grab a women by the crotch if you are famous? Or in the last several months attacked a judge for being Mexican, cruelly mocked a disabled person, and various other attacks on women and almost everyone who was not a white conservative male except Ryan, Romney and McCain. Twitter rant against a former Ms. Universe at 3 AM. Has Claeys done anything nearly as reprehensible? No. Lol.

Those criticizing Trump for those things were sometimes called PC and "we are not electing a minister". Well, if the standards have been severely lowered for our President, I am certainly not in favor of dismissing a football coach whose team just went 9-4 after FAR LESS controversial remarks. No comparison. All that is needed is an improvement in protocol and response in these situations going forward. Make the necessary changes. I am fine with a review of the investigation. Further disciplinary action against the ten players extending into the early part of the 2017 season can be considered. Almost everyone involved should have waited for more information and for emotions to calm before making rash statements. Making Claeys the "fall guy" solves nothing.

Let's put the pitchforks down and not emotionally over-react when we just gave the next President carte blanche to do and say whatever he pleases (and same was basically true of Clinton with her email recklessness and "bullets flying over her head" lies when no such thing happened, deplorables remark, Wasserman Schultz corruption covered up until it was exposed just before the DNC).

A President should be held to a higher standard than a football coach. In this instance, the reverse appears to be true for the time being at least.

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Old 12-28-2016, 01:17 AM
 
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I'm a Gopher fan but something isn't right about all those suspensions over an incident happening in Sept.


However, if I was involved with the San Diego Bowl, Minnesota would get 2 days to pee or get off the pot .
Had it gone on another couple days, I agree with you. Think they ended it just in time. If I had been a bowl official, I would have spoke to the coach and athletic director about the unfairness for their opponent having to prepare for a new team on short notice. Would not be surprised if that conversation actually happened.

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Old 12-28-2016, 08:42 AM
 
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Really proud of the Minnesota Gophers last night !


The last time they met Mike Leach (Texas Tech ) in a bowl game, they gave up the biggest lead in bowl history to get beat.
Last night their short handed defense came to play.


I still like Mike Leach as a coach and have posted my support if the Gophers had hired him after Texas Tech fired him.

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Old 12-28-2016, 09:41 PM
 
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Really proud of the Minnesota Gophers last night !


The last time they met Mike Leach (Texas Tech ) in a bowl game, they gave up the biggest lead in bowl history to get beat.
Last night their short handed defense came to play.


I still like Mike Leach as a coach and have posted my support if the Gophers had hired him after Texas Tech fired him.
I remember that game! Believe former Gophers coach Glen Mason was fired just two or three days after that loss if I remember correctly. Was relieved last night when the Gophers easily recovered the onside kick near the end. Think the Gophers have a good chance at being ranked in the top 25 if a few other teams with four losses lose their bowl games. Definitely agree that Mike Leach is a good coach.
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