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Old 01-01-2017, 09:10 PM
 
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Auburn fan here, but I have to give this year's nod to the ACC.

That being said? Big 10 is always overrated. OSU looked like a directional school against Clemson. Notre Dame plays in the ACC, but they are perpetually overrated, too. Notre Dame aside from the fluke 2012 season where they were essentially sodomized by Alabama in the championship game, hasn't be relevant in a quarter century.
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Old 01-02-2017, 07:25 AM
 
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It's a perplexing season.

Ohio State demolished Oklahoma at Oklahoma, likely earning its play-off berth with that win. For the rest of the season, the team seemed to get worse, despite the victory over Michigan.

Ohio State's lack of defensive tackles was obvious all season, having lost its only experienced starting tackle early in the season.

Ohio State's lack of depth on the offensive line was exposed when it lost its starting right guard on the second play of the game against Clemson. This injury had a definite impact on the game.

Ohio State's offensive coaching has been criticized all year. Here's a definitive column.

Ohio State must make changes to the offensive coaching staff: Doug Lesmerises | cleveland.com

Yet, here's the quandary. How did Clemson lose to Pittsburgh at home? Then Pittsburgh lost its bowl game to the Big Ten's Northwestern. Was Clemson's blow-out of Ohio State a fluke, bad coaching on the part of Ohio State, or just a bad match-up for Ohio State?

Ohio State's passing game was pathetic this year, perhaps exposing J.T. Barrett's limited skills as a passer.

Ohio State obviously was a flawed team, particularly in the trenches. Clemson's defensive line was decisive in the game, especially when Ohio State lost Michael Jordan early in the first quarter.

Ohio State also was by far the youngest team in the play-offs or even among the top ten ranked teams, and this perhaps was a factor in its bowl performance. Last year's mass exodus to the NFL hurt the Buckeyes badly.

http://www.espn.com/college-football...rs-talent-edge

One thing is certain. Urban Meyer no longer can excuse, even in his own mind, Ohio State's offensive deficiencies of the last two years. Adversity often can be a blessing, and Meyer certainly has received a loud wake-up call.

After its loss to Ohio State in the 2014 play-offs, Saban ditched his power offense and adopted a hurry-up, spread offense. It will be interesting to see how Meyer rights the Ohio State ship, a necessity if he doesn't want another program melt-down on his hands as occurred at Florida.

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Old 01-02-2017, 01:27 PM
 
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Yet, here's the quandary. How did Clemson lose to Pittsburgh at home? Then Pittsburgh lost its bowl game to the Big Ten's Northwestern. Was Clemson's blow-out of Ohio State a fluke, bad coaching on the part of Ohio State, or just a bad match-up for Ohio State?
It's called sports. Sports is littered with these kinds of examples. The transitive property does not exist in sports. The Washington Redskins were not better than the New England Patriots because they happened to beat the New York Giants twice during the regular season (who beat the Pats in the Super Bowl).

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Ohio State also was by far the youngest team in the play-offs or even among the top ten ranked teams, and this perhaps was a factor in its bowl performance. Last year's mass exodus to the NFL hurt the Buckeyes badly.
That's something every elite program has to deal with, no? If your players are good, then they leave early, and then you have to start over again with new players. It seems like Alabama has adjusted to that reality very well hence the multiple titles over the years.
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Old 01-02-2017, 02:38 PM
 
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Add an Iowa crushing to list of Big10 woes. Yes Wisconsin just got a win but that was over a MAC team.
It's almost comical how some were wanting 2 Big 10 teams in the playoff. Michigan lost to a team out of the top 10. Ohio State of course got creamed. If I'm a Penn State I've gotta be worried that beating Ohio State and winning the Big 10 doesn't mean much.
Aside from Louisville crapping the bed the ACC has definitely done well this bowl season.
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Old 01-02-2017, 03:06 PM
 
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The ACC has won the most this year followed by the SEC. And they had to audacity to want to add to B1G teams to the playoffs smh.
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Old 01-02-2017, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Mobile,Al(the city by the bay)
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It's a perplexing season.


Ohio State also was by far the youngest team in the play-offs or even among the top ten ranked teams, and this perhaps was a factor in its bowl performance. Last year's mass exodus to the NFL hurt the Buckeyes badly.
Alabama has that issue every year. And this year is no different and Alabama's team is just as young as Ohio's.

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Old 01-02-2017, 03:43 PM
 
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It's a perplexing season.

Ohio State demolished Oklahoma at Oklahoma, likely earning its play-off berth with that win. For the rest of the season, the team seemed to get worse, despite the victory over Michigan.

Ohio State's lack of defensive tackles was obvious all season, having lost its only experienced starting tackle early in the season.

Ohio State's lack of depth on the offensive line was exposed when it lost its starting right guard on the second play of the game against Clemson. This injury had a definite impact on the game.

Ohio State's offensive coaching has been criticized all year. Here's a definitive column.

Ohio State must make changes to the offensive coaching staff: Doug Lesmerises | cleveland.com

Yet, here's the quandary. How did Clemson lose to Pittsburgh at home? Then Pittsburgh lost its bowl game to the Big Ten's Northwestern. Was Clemson's blow-out of Ohio State a fluke, bad coaching on the part of Ohio State, or just a bad match-up for Ohio State?

Ohio State's passing game was pathetic this year, perhaps exposing J.T. Barrett's limited skills as a passer.

Ohio State obviously was a flawed team, particularly in the trenches. Clemson's defensive line was decisive in the game, especially when Ohio State lost Michael Jordan early in the first quarter.

Ohio State also was by far the youngest team in the play-offs or even among the top ten ranked teams, and this perhaps was a factor in its bowl performance. Last year's mass exodus to the NFL hurt the Buckeyes badly.



Even Ohio State Buckeyes coach Urban Meyer couldn't overcome Clemson Tigers talent edge

One thing is certain. Urban Meyer no longer can excuse, even in his own mind, Ohio State's offensive deficiencies of the last two years. Adversity often can be a blessing, and Meyer certainly has received a loud wake-up call.

After its loss to Ohio State in the 2014 play-offs, Saban ditched his power offense and adopted a hurry-up, spread offense. It will be interesting to see how Meyer rights the Ohio State ship, a necessity if he doesn't want another program melt-down on his hands as occurred at Florida.
The Pitt loss wasn't super surprising because despite all of Clemson's talent, each season they seem to play a few games where they play down to the level of their opponents. It took them OT to beat NC State early in the season. They only beat VT by a TD. When you play in conference opponents who are familiar with your game play, a few head scratcher games are expected.
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Old 01-02-2017, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Mobile,Al(the city by the bay)
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The Pitt loss wasn't super surprising because despite all of Clemson's talent, each season they seem to play a few games where they play down to the level of their opponents. It took them OT to beat NC State early in the season. They only beat VT by a TD. When you play in conference opponents who are familiar with your game play, a few head scratcher games are expected.
Yep.....Same case with BAMA.
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Old 01-02-2017, 04:26 PM
 
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0-69 for the B1G in the playoffs the last two years.
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Old 01-02-2017, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Mobile,Al(the city by the bay)
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The Pitt loss wasn't super surprising because despite all of Clemson's talent, each season they seem to play a few games where they play down to the level of their opponents. It took them OT to beat NC State early in the season. They only beat VT by a TD. When you play in conference opponents who are familiar with your game play, a few head scratcher games are expected.
Yep.....Same case with BAMA.
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