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View Poll Results: Which of these reasons was the most important cause of lower ratings?
People are tired of Bama and Clemson. 11 47.83%
The game start time is too late for a worknight. 2 8.70%
The game should be played on a Saturday. 8 34.78%
The game wasn't close. 1 4.35%
Other reason (state in post below) 1 4.35%
Voters: 23. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-01-2019, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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Its sad that BC has fallen off, VA Tech is not what it once was for sure, Miami is a joke, etc.... The ACC is not a bad conference by any stretch but its just never going to be a great conference in football at least.
Miami almost made the playoffs two years ago, Virginia Tech had two good seasons prior to this past year.

This year was a weird year in the ACC because FSU, Va Tech and Lville are typically not going to be that bad in the same season.
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Old Yesterday, 03:31 PM
 
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I don't know how anybody can say Clemson wasn't supposed to be there in 2015 given they had Deshaun Watson at QB and a lot of other talented players.

Well, looking at it from the start of the year.. And i'm saying this as a Clemson fan.. 2015 there was hope, but "Clemsoning" was still a thing.. Watson was coming off an ACL tear. FSU was still a strong team, though they had lost Winston.



Remember.. Clemson was ranked #12 to start that season..

Now, by the end of the year.. Absolutely. They were either the best or second best team in the country, there's no question about that. An argument could be made (and I've posited this in the past) that the 2015 team was better than the 2016 team that did win the National Championship.


So, it depends on point of view.. If it's being said that "They weren't supposed to be there" meaning look at who was supposed to do what at the start of the year.. I'd agree. but if we're talking about it from the end of the year with what they had accomplished.. There's no question they deserved to be there.
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Old Today, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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Clemsoning was never a real thing. The Clemson teams that lost in those years were typically not that good on the O-line or on defense, or they just had a bad day against teams as good or better.

The 2015 team didn't have Mike Williams all year due to the severe neck injury and Deon Cain was suspended for the playoffs.
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