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Old 12-12-2008, 11:02 AM
 
Location: TX
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^ It cracks me up about all these conspiracy theories.

And we now see what a great football player Vince Young is. (Yeah, ditto for Matt Leinart.)
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Old 12-12-2008, 02:34 PM
 
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Of course it did.......

But so did the head to head with Texas Tech

And so did the head to head between OU and Texas Tech.

All Texas Tech had to do to go to the BCS NC was to beat OU by one point. They had already beat Texas. If they could beat Texas and OU, beating Missouri would have been no problem, and Tech would have gone to Miami.
That's not the same thing. The head to head only counted inthat it was a loss just like the other losses. When used to evaluate to teams as conmpared to each other, the fact that one beat the other was not the decision point. It was in other situations.
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Old 12-14-2008, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth/Dallas
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That's not the same thing. The head to head only counted inthat it was a loss just like the other losses. When used to evaluate to teams as conmpared to each other, the fact that one beat the other was not the decision point. It was in other situations.
Your post doesn't make a whole lot of sense, seriously. Care to elaborate?
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Old 12-14-2008, 06:40 PM
 
Location: Kentucky/ Displaced Texan
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^ It cracks me up about all these conspiracy theories.

And we now see what a great football player Vince Young is. (Yeah, ditto for Matt Leinart.)

I am one to differ between NFL and college. I would say Young was one of the best college football players ever. Sometimes it doesn't translate into the NFL. However, I would give Vince more time to say he is a bust.
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Old 12-15-2008, 04:20 PM
 
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^ It cracks me up about all these conspiracy theories.

And we now see what a great football player Vince Young is. (Yeah, ditto for Matt Leinart.)
but the Heisman isn't for best potential NFL player but for best college player period.

there have been numorous Heisman winners that have flopped in the NFL, it doesn't diminish their college careers any less with me. I also think it's too early to judge both of the above in regards to them being flops.

the problem for many is they are usually skill players (QB, RB) and being high draft picks tend to get put on bad teams and expected to produce right away b/c of the big contract given. This is esp. damning for QB's, (see Alex Smith or Matt Leinart vs. Aaron Rodgers) and you've got a recipe for disaster.

Can anyone fault the Texans for taking the big d-line man over the small not-every-down-now-injured Reggie Bush? in the end they did the right thing for their organization. perhaps that's a bit off-topic.

I'm curious to find out how Tebow will fare, so many FLA QB's have flopped in the NFL, incl. some Heisman winners. I think TT could succeed but maybe not even as a QB.
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Old 12-15-2008, 04:37 PM
 
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^ It also reminds me of a college football Heisman winner who didn't even play in the NFL. Charlie Ward wound up w/ the Knicks in the NBA.
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