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Old 09-04-2007, 01:54 PM
 
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Terrible this year? Both the AP and USA Today polls had Michigan as #5 in the nations. All pregame prognostication had U of M blowing App out of the water. Las Vegas oddsmakers wouldn't even touch the game! They all assumed it would be no contest!

Coaching makes a difference, and I know a lot of people think Carr is lousy. Jerry Moore has been with App for years and knows the team well. He's a great coach. If you want to make the argument that U of M was outcoached, that's cool. However, with all the talent and all the scholarships on the team, I think it's hard to say that U of M is terrible this year. The only evidence of that is the defeat by App. Is it so hard to say that App is just good? Fast, capable, underestimated, and well coached? I'll be interested to see how the rest of the season goes for U of M.
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Old 09-04-2007, 02:06 PM
 
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Both the AP and USA Today polls had Michigan as #5 in the nations.
Which turned out to be a huge mistake on their part.

Michigan is terrible this year. Their QB hasn't improved in four years. Their defensive line is more porous than a sponge. It's bad.
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Old 09-04-2007, 05:04 PM
 
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I went to App for 1 year...but transferred out. When I was there, the biggest problem was that 90% of the students were fans of ACC schools....they liked App, but they didn't consider them their "A #1" favorite team. Until this changes, App will be considered a little guy.
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Old 09-04-2007, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Tucson, AZ
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I went to App for 1 year...but transferred out. When I was there, the biggest problem was that 90% of the students were fans of ACC schools....they liked App, but they didn't consider them their "A #1" favorite team. Until this changes, App will be considered a little guy.
Maybe making the leap to Division 1-A will entice more students to make them their favorites. Going up a division comes first- not the other way around. Give the kids a reason to want to give their hearts to this team. To be in 1-AA, especially in that part of the country (deep in the heart of SEC and ACC country) makes it hard to throw yourself behind them 100% I would think.

And nothing for nothing, but if they made the commitment to go to 1-A, you know they would be competitive enough...
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Old 09-04-2007, 07:57 PM
 
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Yeah, there were definitely some of those ACC fans at App, but in my experience that was shown more during basketball season than football season.

When were you there, Splinter? I graduated in 04, and the longer I was there, the more into the team the students were. Every time I go back, thanks to the championships and now this, the bigger fans the students were. I think that'll continue to grow.
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Old 09-06-2007, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Huntsville, AL
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Well, well, lookie here, posted online just moments ago:

"By PAUL NEWBERRY

AP National Writer

After pulling off one of the greatest upsets in college football history, Appalachian State is still shaking things up.

The Associated Press said Thursday that lower-division schools - that means you, Mountaineers - are now eligible for its 71-year-old poll.

"It's great they opened the door," Appalachian State coach Jerry Moore said. "Certainly we're not going to be the No. 1 team in the country. We know that. We're not even going to be in the top 10. But if you have a win over a nice football team, I like that it's not out of the realm of possibility for a school like us to be one of the top 20 or 25 teams in the country.""
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Old 09-06-2007, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Huntsville, AL
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The next logical step is to eliminate the subdivisions and let everyone just play football. Penalizing UM in such dramatic fashion in the polls for that loss only stands in the way of traditional D1 teams scheduling traditional 1AA teams in the future. Elimination of the subdivisions resolves that.
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Old 09-06-2007, 03:59 PM
 
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I'll say it again, a simple 32 team playoff starting Thanksgiving weekend and ending New Years day with a championship game. Like 'March Madness,' come up with something catchy and market the heck out of it. It'll work, folks. You can even let the bowl sites play host to the games. There's about 31 bowl games if you count the Navel Lint Bowl and others...
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Old 09-07-2007, 05:24 AM
 
Location: orlando, fl
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The next logical step is to eliminate the subdivisions and let everyone just play football. Penalizing UM in such dramatic fashion in the polls for that loss only stands in the way of traditional D1 teams scheduling traditional 1AA teams in the future. Elimination of the subdivisions resolves that.
but then you have a gazillion teams in one division. it's bad enough with 119 teams
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Old 09-07-2007, 01:23 PM
 
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It was an impressive victory, but to be fair, Michigan is terrible this year, and their coach is slow to adapt to changes in the game.
Of course they're terrible. They lost to Appalachian State for petesakes! On the plus side for Michigan coaches...they'll use this loss as a motivation tactic into the next century. To be fair to Appalachian State...they must be pretty good....they beat Michigan State. I tip my hat to the entire team! Great victory.

blessings....Franco
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