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Any real PhD would tell you that they received the title after it was determined that they had achieved [P]ermanent [H]ead [D]amage
I also totally agree to the sentiment of the education race of sorts.
I am a 28 year old working on my 7th collegiate degree. I was able to attain a nice cushy job akin to what I have now after just one degree, but I actually go to school for the classical pursuit of knowledge. That is to say, I like learning in a quasi-structured environment and getting a big sticker...erm I mean diploma at the conclusion.
I applaud that. You are doing education the right way. Many of us, did it the wrong way and only did it because we needed to.
I think the issue with college is we pick a major and we will graduate anywhere from 4-6 years if not longer (depending on post grad and changing majors due to difficulty of lower level requirements) The question is, in that time are the course we are taking relevant to the major. I took one course as a "throw-away" for a certificate program with my management degree on electronic marketing and guess what, I found it to be very helpful and understanding of online stores and becoming savvy with social media for jobs.
However the issue of the education arms race is proving to mean that the degrees have lesser value. When education is limited it is respected, when it is given out everyone is equal and no-one is special. I think it is time society re-thought the importance of college, particularly when the costs are as high as they are.
I applaud that. You are doing education the right way. Many of us, did it the wrong way and only did it because we needed to.
I think the issue with college is we pick a major and we will graduate anywhere from 4-6 years if not longer (depending on post grad and changing majors due to difficulty of lower level requirements) The question is, in that time are the course we are taking relevant to the major. I took one course as a "throw-away" for a certificate program with my management degree on electronic marketing and guess what, I found it to be very helpful and understanding of online stores and becoming savvy with social media for jobs.
However the issue of the education arms race is proving to mean that the degrees have lesser value. When education is limited it is respected, when it is given out everyone is equal and no-one is special. I think it is time society re-thought the importance of college, particularly when the costs are as high as they are.
Not many more people are graduating from college but a ton are starting and never finishing. What is water down degrees are for profits and a labor market that was in recession and is coming back slowly now.
Any real PhD would tell you that they received the title after it was determined that they had achieved [P]ermanent [H]ead [D]amage
I enjoyed graduate school quite a bit while getting a PhD in a very technical field. I can see why some people would hate it, but science has always been fun for me and if I was a billionaire I would pay for the privilege of doing my job. I guess I am the outlier, though, as many of my colleagues refer to their grad school days as 'The Dark Ages'.
Scam is a strong hard and perhaps somewhat true but my take on college is this:
You have to major in something employable, something marketable, something the employer wants to hire.
Yes the employer could proably hire and train a pysch grad, a history grad, a sociology grad, American studies grad etc... to do the job just as well as a graduate of the more "specialzed major" accounting, finance etc... but what I am finding is the employer would rather hire the finance grad, the accounting grad, the economics grad and train him/her over a generic Liberal arts grad. For whatever reason employers' today are more picky, they can be more picky, they can hold out for the niche majors, so in my mind if you want to maximize your chances of success then you might as well study a niche a "REAL" major.
Now that being said regardless if your major is a "Real" one or a "fluff" major, getting internships, summer work etc... is absolutley essential, start freshmen year and never look back. The degree is almost perfunctory it is the expereince that gets you work.
We are not in an age (with the exception of a few areas of study) of college degree=job. Yes i know your highschool counselers told you otherwise but they are wrong, employers can afford to be as choosy as he/she wants to be, they ARE being as choosy as he/she wants to be-therefore it only makes sense to major in what the employer wants to hire
Not many more people are graduating from college but a ton are starting and never finishing. What is water down degrees are for profits and a labor market that was in recession and is coming back slowly now.
The for-profits do not help no, but we have an inflated view of what degrees from any institution actually do. We have seen more and more people going into college which means more dropouts and more degrees. The issue is for the people going to college, there aren't enough college jobs. We nearly have a high ratio of college graduates to (true) college degree required jobs.
Not many more people are graduating from college but a ton are starting and never finishing. What is water down degrees are for profits and a labor market that was in recession and is coming back slowly now.
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Originally Posted by mkpunk
The for-profits do not help no, but we have an inflated view of what degrees from any institution actually do. We have seen more and more people going into college which means more dropouts and more degrees. The issue is for the people going to college, there aren't enough college jobs. We nearly have a high ratio of college graduates to (true) college degree required jobs.
The college drop-out rate is about the same as it has been for at least the last 50 years; ~ 50%.
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