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Old 10-31-2011, 02:32 PM
 
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Ok... they typically aren't good at it. We're talking about the general educated population. Not the extreme geniuses.
The general population has liberal arts degrees and business degrees... not engineering degrees...



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Wow, with all these liberal arts majors and business majors, shouldn't they have discovered a cure for cancer by now? Oh wait, they aren't the ones researching that... my bad...
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Old 10-31-2011, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Science and engineering is focused on problem solving, yes... but not on problem discovery. That is where areas such as psychology, philosophy and anthropology come into play.
This is gibberish on many levels.... Firstly, "problem discovery" is a key part of science. Secondly, psychology and anthropology are sciences.... Thirdly, psychologists, anthropologists and philosophers are not discovering problems for say physicists to solve...

Just more comedy....I'm sure you can find better things to do with your time that make things on on a forum....right?

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Have you ever studied a liberal art?
Yep....unlike yourself.
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Old 10-31-2011, 02:38 PM
 
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The general population has liberal arts degrees and business degrees... not engineering degrees...



http://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/figu...gure-fsu-1.gif

Wow, with all these liberal arts majors and business majors, shouldn't they have discovered a cure for cancer by now? Oh wait, they aren't the ones researching that... my bad...
I think that's kind of disrespectful to the scientists who have dedicated their lives to cancer research. It's certainly not a matter of quantity as it is lack of quality understanding of that disease. But they are definitely making progress on it. I digress...
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Old 10-31-2011, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, New York
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Believe when I say there are plenty of qualified and unemployed nurses out there. Many hospitals are on a hiring freeze or they refuse to hire more nurses because they don't want to spend more money on nurses. Nurses are an added expense that many hospitals do not want to bother spending on. So they hire a few good nurses and force them to take on dangerously high patient loads, networking and burning their staff out.
So true. Hospitals are going bankrupt right and left in my area. My brother lost his 25-year-old job when his hospital closed. Fortunately, he had a part-time job at another hospital, but it still took 18 months for them to hire him as a permanent, full-timer. The nursing 'shortage' is a myth in most cities. The hospitals just aren't spending the money to hire them.
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Old 10-31-2011, 02:46 PM
 
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I think that's kind of disrespectful to the scientists who have dedicated their lives to cancer research. It's certainly not a matter of quantity as it is lack of quality understanding of that disease. But they are definitely making progress on it. I digress...
You missed the point entirely. The point was that business and liberal arts majors are not the ones doing major research on the world's problems or coming up with unique new ideas as NJBest formerly asserted.

Scientists and Engineers are the ones doing this research. They are the ones coming up with new ideas.
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Old 10-31-2011, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, New York
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Many universities offer liberal arts courses as electives, and that is fine. But if a person goes to college to major in that, then they have a legitimate reason to wonder whether it is a wise investment of their time and money (LOTS of it).

What kind of return are they expecting from such an investment?
Knowledge.
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Old 10-31-2011, 02:48 PM
 
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Medieval literature is a ridiculous degree. Those are not the kinds of liberal arts graduates we need.

Your professors may be doing that, but if they are solely engineers or scientists, without any study in psychology and philosophy, they probably aren't conducting the greatest studies.
Put your shovel away. At the rate you're going, you'll be submerged for life.

This is just laughable....
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Old 10-31-2011, 02:54 PM
 
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You missed the point entirely. The point was that business and liberal arts majors are not the ones doing major research on the world's problems or coming up with unique new ideas as NJBest formerly asserted.

Scientists and Engineers are the ones doing this research. They are the ones coming up with new ideas.
Seriously people, can't y'all just agree to disagree? Every major has its own importance. Just because you (you applying to both sides of this argument) cannot see what's so important about a major does not mean there's nothing significant there.

I honestly get tired of the same old "my degree is bigger than yours" argument every time two different colleges get in the same room.

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Old 10-31-2011, 02:55 PM
 
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The point was that business and liberal arts majors are not the ones doing major research on the world's problems or coming up with unique new ideas.
I see what you're saying, but I do feel that not enough credit is given to people with backgrounds in the LAs. Just because someone has a degree in the humanities doesn't mean they are entirely incapable of problem solving. I think a lot of these folks play bigger roles than you might imagine, perhaps not always on the grand scale, but on the smaller scale in administrative and/or operational roles.
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Old 10-31-2011, 02:57 PM
 
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Seriously people, can't y'all just agree to disagree? Every major has its own importance. Just because you (you applying to both sides of this argument) cannot see what's so important about a major does not mean there's nothing significant there.

I honestly get tired of the same old "my degree is bigger than yours" argument every time two different colleges get in the same room.
Seriously, you're right. I think it's just natural for people to be competitive, some obviously more than others.
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