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Old 11-29-2011, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Santa Clarita
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I agree, i recently went back to Community College and there's some kids who Dont pay attention or Come to class once a week. Oh well it's there loss, they'll have a hard time paying off there student loans in the future

 
Old 11-29-2011, 04:17 PM
 
Location: southern california
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u r so right but they are in fact smarter than university students. the university students are paying $70 bucks a unit to waste your time instead of $20 a unit.
 
Old 11-29-2011, 04:19 PM
 
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u r so right but they are in fact smarter than university students. the university students are paying $70 bucks a unit to waste your time instead of $20 a unit.
The smart ones don't pay for university education. It's everyone else who has to pay for it or go to Community College.
 
Old 11-29-2011, 04:20 PM
 
Location: southwestern PA
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If she's AP'd out of some of the classes then she essentially AP'd out of some freshman/sophomore courses and would be ready for junior level courses sooner.
Correct. And the classes she would have needed are not offered at our CC.
 
Old 11-29-2011, 04:25 PM
 
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u r so right but they are in fact smarter than university students. the university students are paying $70 bucks a unit to waste your time instead of $20 a unit.
That's a dubious claim.
 
Old 11-29-2011, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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That's a dubious claim.
It is sort of true though. Probably 80% of college students are taking pretty much the same classes for the first two years. Engineering and some other majors excepted. If you can take the GE and electives at a CC for a fraction of the cost then why not? Now, there is value of taking in the whole college experience - no argument there - but from strictly a dollars and sense argument, it's tough not to concede the first couple years at a CC.

If money is not an object, then sure the four year is the way to go. Football games, basketball games, traditions, dorm fun, university pride, etc.
 
Old 11-29-2011, 04:46 PM
 
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It is sort of true though. Probably 80% of college students are taking pretty much the same classes for the first two years. Engineering and some other majors excepted. If you can take the GE and electives at a CC for a fraction of the cost then why not? Now, there is value of taking in the whole college experience - no argument there - but from strictly a dollars and sense argument, it's tough not to concede the first couple years at a CC.

If money is not an object, then sure the four year is the way to go. Football games, basketball games, traditions, dorm fun, university pride, etc.
Yeah... see my post above about expectations and rigors. I'm not against CC, I'm just saying that it's USUALLY a different academic environment when compared to a <good> university.

Don't confuse practicality with ingenuity. That's only half the battle. I know plenty of practical people who are not that smart intellectually.
 
Old 11-29-2011, 04:52 PM
 
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If money is not an object, then sure the four year is the way to go. Football games, basketball games, traditions, dorm fun, university pride, etc.
For a family of 4 with a household income of $80,000, my 4 year small private school costs $4,780/year (The rest is covered by financial aid grants). This includes tuition, room, board, books and personal expenses, and travel/transportation.

According to the CollegeBoard, the average tuition for a community college is $2,963/year. This does not include room, board, books, etc.

It hardly seems to be much of a difference in terms of cost. In fact, price was a major factor in why I chose my university. It would have cost me more to go to a state school, sadly.
 
Old 11-29-2011, 05:05 PM
 
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Old 11-29-2011, 05:30 PM
 
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And many just know a bargain when they see one. The cost of two years at a community college is less than the cost of 1 semester at a 4 year university and you're taking the same classes.

However, I do think the quality of students is on the decline. Before I left industry, I was noticing that the quality of the graduates we were hiring wasn't up to snuff. We have a generation of kids who were raised as the center of the family who played on teams where there were no losers, where they were giving trophies for just showing up and everyone got a prize...
Maybe where you live but here, CC are NOT the same classes. They are not even taught by full professors. Sorry, they are not even close to the same.


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I have every intention of sending my kids to CC for the first two years simply because of the cost save. I will, literally, shave three years off of the cost of both of my girls educations combined. Also, there are scholarship opportunities available to transfer students. I came out of a CC and won a full scholarship to a private university to study engineering. I would have had nothing in the way of financial aid if I'd gone to a 4 year university first.
Here classes don't automatically transfer and none of the private schools here accept CC credits....those 2 years at a CC would be a waste of money.

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For a family of 4 with a household income of $80,000, my 4 year small private school costs $4,780/year (The rest is covered by financial aid grants). This includes tuition, room, board, books and personal expenses, and travel/transportation.

According to the CollegeBoard, the average tuition for a community college is $2,963/year. This does not include room, board, books, etc.

It hardly seems to be much of a difference in terms of cost. In fact, price was a major factor in why I chose my university. It would have cost me more to go to a state school, sadly.
Can you hop over to the MN board and post this on the "Carleton Students" thread If you add in room and board for a CC student, even living at home they cost money, your costs are probably close to the same.
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