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Pretty vague and biased toward large companies, which do most of the layoffs. Hiring managers decide what really matters.
It's a poll asking college graduates how much they thought where they went to school mattered, and the engineers seemed to think it mattered a lot. That's exactly what the thread was about, except this has a larger sample size.
I believe that a degree from a well-respected college will benefit anyone getting any degree. Well-respected employers want employees from well-respected schools, who graduated with high GPAs, who have a good personality, who can work well with others, and who have the skills/education an employer seeks. If you want to work with the best, you have to show you can meet their standards.
Having said that, if working for the best is not as important to you as the convenience of going to a local university, then you must accept that there may be adverse consequences to your decision. Or, going to a local university may not be a hinderance when job hunting. No one can say with certainty.
My husband wants to go back to school for Engineering, he was going to attend University of Houston because it is suppose to be a good school for engineering from what I read....of course its not Univ of Texas or Texas A&M so does it matter much where an engineering student gets his degree?
I think University of Houston would be fine. You're right in oil land so I'm sure there's plenty of recruiting from there.
In general, I think it opens more doors to your fortune 100 companies to go to a good school. If he doesn't have huge aspirations to go to a big company that isn't in the region, I don't think it matters much at all.
Ask to see the school's career services recruiting calendar. You should be able to get an idea of the types of companies recruiting there. It doesn't preclude you from being able to land a job elsewhere, but you are much more likely to land a job if you can get a direct interview at a campus recruiting event versus being one in a thousand applying online.
Completely random example: I know as of about 6 years ago (when I last checked) Medtronic recruited at the following schools: MIT, Stanford, Berkeley, Cal Tech, Michigan, CMU, and UIUC. I'd bet if you look at their employee pool, those schools have way more representation than others.
Yes, it matters very much where you go to engineering school, for certain jobs. But it seems to hurt Americans' feelings to admit that there can actually be differences in peoples' ability and motivation, and that these things are correlated strongly with their educations. In real life, someone from Cal State Nowhere will not even get an interview with a first-rate RandD lab. On the other hand, for a dumbed-down engineering job with a second-rate (or worse) employer, it probably doesn't matter much. After the first job, if you went to Cal State Nowhere, you better have some good patents or papers to show at you next interview if you want to move up the employer food chain.
If I had a solid patent I would be developing it in my garage and marketing it myself not giving my ideas away, phd's and papers are the biggest racket around, btw I went to a name brand school.
Once you can prove the invention or idea is solid you can sell it for way way more than your salerno would have been then I can enjoy sipping drinks in Hawaii instead of getting up in the morning to go to a job whom I just gave my intellectual property away too lol
These "dumb down" engineering jobs can pay big bucks so that you can finance your own work with out kissing some phd's rear end, like some useless peasant. I can get any text or thesis I want from inter library loan as well, a masters an a pe with solid work experience is all you need
I don't think so. A friend who went to ASU was comparing notes with someone who went to Berkeley, and they used the same textbooks. And the friend from ASU, who is a PE, is doing quite well.
Ummmmm... Just because schools may use the same textbook does not mean they turned out the same type of graduates. The school you go to is very important. However, that does not mean you cannot succeed after going to a non-top-25 engineering school. After school, there are other factors to success, such as connections, luck, brains and work habits. Quite frankly, the AVERAGE engineering graduate at UofMichigan is not in the same league as the average MIT engineering graduate. However, as an individual who went to UofMichigan, that does not mean I cannot have more success than someone who went to MIT, or Harvard, or whatever.
So to put it mildly,
I also think GPA matters...to use extremes, I am guessing a "D" average at Harvard and a "A" average at a non top tier school would be weighted with the "A" average worth more. When people look at the degree someone has, it is always going to be partly a representation of the fact the person showed up and went to class, and did what was necessary to achieve success. The "A" average speaks more highly of that work ethic.
When people look at the degree someone has, it is always going to be partly a representation of the fact the person showed up and went to class, and did what was necessary to achieve success. The "A" average speaks more highly of that work ethic.
In engineering, that is not necessarily the case. Some of the A students I went to college with I wouldn't want anywhere near my projects. The lack the interpersonal skills required to work in project settings and are a huge hassle to deal with from a management perspective. Most A students are like "Leonard" and "Wallowitz" than "Sheldon" and "Raj" from Big Bang Theory.
Engineering schools matter as most employers stockpile their engineering departments from a short list of schools. If you want to work for that specific employer, such as Boeing, you probably need to go to one of their top five schools. Otherwise, you need to be comfortable being an outlier and not depending on fellow alumni and school ties to get you hired directly or promoted. I would say that having an engineering internship or co-op is much more valuable than going to somewhere that is not a national top 10 engineering school. This matters for the first job or two but after 5 years, where you went to school has little impact on your job prospects in most cases. If an employer is that stuck on where you went to school, ie. all VPs went to University X, it is either a small company, which may be ok, or a large company that has an atrocious, inbred, group-think and should be avoided.
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