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Not afraid of my children driving, but stats for younger drivers are not great. I didn't make them up. Insurance actuaries did. That's why insurance rates are higher. Especially for young males. Fear is not the word. Caution would be more correct.
Trust my kids completely. Can't say the same for other people on the road. And, as much as I do trust them. less experienced and younger drivers are not a quick to make decisions with good out comes while driving. The human brain does not fully mature until 25. Google it.
I don't think provincialism is at all being blown out of proportion. This is a pivotal point in human development. I have seen people get "stuck" om their home town and begin to think that the world revolves around it.Being provincial is not an asset.
The less they leave. the more frightened they are to do so.
It seems to become a lifetime pastern for many people who don't leave home.
I don't care how exciting your home town or city may be. There are other places that are just as interesting and people with different perspectives who you will never meet hanging out at home with your HS buddies and your family.
If where you live is really wonderful and brimming with excitement, perhaps 4 years at a college in the country would be good. Something different.
It's limiting and narrow minded to only think of the colleges near your home.
This is a wonderful opportunity to leave, but still keep one's self planted at home. It's unique and it only happens once in a life time.
You can't live in a dorm with other people your age at 36, but your home town will always be there.
This opportunity will not.
Well someone's agreeing with me because I continue to get rep for this post an my others about this topic.
I went to a top school in NY and commuted. I had zero interest in the dorm experience or any of that. If I was interested in a particular subject, I'd meet students in those classes and we'd have study groups or library sessions, etc. I loved my experience, met a network of friends that I've been in steady contact with for years and who have helped me move around in my career (and I've helped them as well). It's not for everyone but there certainly are those for which commuting is the better choice.
I don't see why there's any need to declare that one way is right. There are so many variables among people with regard to geographic location, how prepared they are for college, how accessible public transportation is, and just generally if the person doesn't want to leave the nest just yet. I know many who have gone away and said it was a terrific experience which I think is great for them. They did what worked and were happy with the result. At the end of the day, that's all that should matter.
Well I commute to a school in Manhattan so the words inconvenient and expensive does not come to mind (104/mo lol and a 50min commute). My choice was one of necessity and in my opinion pragmatism. One, my parents didn't file for FAFSA and we make too much to get a Pell grant. Also, since I'm studying accounting there's really no need to leave the state.
If was to go to the same school, but "dorm" that would cost me 1000/mo which is not worth it in my opinion.
At MANY of the NYC schools, a room and board package costs upwards of $15k/ yr (per the cost of attending charts on their website). In MOST cases, if you stay in a dorm, you have to pay for an EXPENSIVE meal plan.
I did the dorm thing for a couple of years and if you like a party-like atmosphere that keeps you from studying in the dorm, that's fine with me. Fortunately, I found a family that rented me a room, let me join them for dinner nightly and occasional use their car for $175/mo.
Yea I know. I go to a heavily recruited school so why should I go to some out of state school where its more expensive. The OP post reeks of "privilege" and arrogance.
Not afraid of my children driving, but stats for younger drivers are not great. I didn't make them up. Insurance actuaries did. That's why insurance rates are higher. Especially for young males. Fear is not the word. Caution would be more correct.
Trust my kids completely. Can't say the same for other people on the road. And, as much as I do trust them. less experienced and younger drivers are not a quick to make decisions with good out comes while driving. The human brain does not fully mature until 25. Google it.
I don't think provincialism is at all being blown out of proportion. This is a pivotal point in human development. I have seen people get "stuck" om their home town and begin to think that the world revolves around it.Being provincial is not an asset.
The less they leave. the more frightened they are to do so.
It seems to become a lifetime pastern for many people who don't leave home.
I don't care how exciting your home town or city may be. There are other places that are just as interesting and people with different perspectives who you will never meet hanging out at home with your HS buddies and your family.
If where you live is really wonderful and brimming with excitement, perhaps 4 years at a college in the country would be good. Something different.
It's limiting and narrow minded to only think of the colleges near your home.
This is a wonderful opportunity to leave, but still keep one's self planted at home. It's unique and it only happens once in a life time.
You can't live in a dorm with other people your age at 36, but your home town will always be there.
This opportunity will not.
People who are content never leaving campus are just as provincial as people who use commuting as an excuse to not expand outside their comfort zone. Both habitual patterns are equally indicative of a lack of curiosity (and the subsequent dreaded "P" word that comes with it). The one thing going away to school may do for some people, however, is trigger that sort of curiosity.
Yea I know. I go to a heavily recruited school so why should I go to some out of state school where its more expensive. The OP post reeks of "privilege" and arrogance.
No privilege or arrogance. no need to attack me or my post.
There is a lot of arrogance indicated by people who think that their home town or city has the best schools (or perhaps that's chauvinism) and there are so many people who would rather pay though the nose to attend a local private school, any private school, rather than venture out of the area to another school, or perhaps a state school.
Never heard of anyone living on campus who never left. They already LEFT bu leaving home!
When I went to college a large city was about an hour west of us, and the Berkshires were and hour East. We took a bus and availed ourselves of both.
No one was afraid to leave campus. however I know so many students who are afraid - or frightened to leave home.
Students who go away tend to be an adventurous open minded lot.
Never heard of anyone living on campus who never left. They already LEFT bu leaving home!
No one was afraid to leave campus. however I know so many students who are afraid - or frightened to leave home.
Students who go away tend to be an adventurous open minded lot.
I'm not talking about being afraid; I'm talking about people who, upon arriving at school, quickly become quite insular, the college bubble replacing the home bubble of their earlier years. Students who go away are more likely to be adventurous and open-minded, but I found a lot of people in my school were content never going far beyond campus grounds, which is really a shame. Going away to school was an enriching experience for me precisely because I was constantly on the move, exploring the world around me and always looking to do new things and meet new people. Too many people seem to squander that privilege. I suppose campus provincialism is better than home provincialism, but it's provincialism all the same.
Heaven Wood, I have really never seen that. I am not saying it never happens. All sorts of things happen.
What most often seems to happen is that people are frightened by their parents - who most frequently have never been to college about college life.
They are told that the professors are leftists
That everyone is on drugs,
That everyone is having sex
And that their family will miss them.
They are not encouraged to be adventurous or to leave home with out guilt.
Some people can't go away.MONEY IS RARELY THE REASON.
It's usually, fear and guilt.
Statistically, the best college for you is not withing driving distance of your hometown.
That's what I've observed at just about every college I visited, from Penn to Pitt to Lehigh to Vanderbilt. Maybe I just have unusually high standards when it comes to that stuff.
I don't know if you necessarily need to be beyond "driving distance," but I will say that going to a state school five hours away, I feel more independent/self-sufficient than my friends who went to the local Ivy 1/2 hour away. But just by living on campus in a completely new environment I still think they reaped most of the usual benefits, even if I feel like I gained an "edge." Though to be absolutely fair, they enjoyed the educational/social benefits of going to one of the world's best universities. My school was decent, but I sometimes felt unchallenged in the classroom and often felt a disconnect from my peers. Perhaps having to "suffer" a little ultimately made me a stronger person.
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