Dropped out of Ph.D, got into 2nd university, no motivation: HELP! (CIA, master)

[Bettafish]

Originally Posted by nightlysparrow

Have you ever considered that some people don't need a "career," i.e., a social identity?

One's life focus may be on personal relationships, or on service, or on one's family (of origin or created), or on creative pursuits.

One needs a source of income of course, but may get an identity through other means.

It's a good point. However, one has to be very strong to choose this way.

[mintgum84]

you know not every guy with 'rich boy' problems is a troll. i sought genuine advice here.

[gentlearts]

You got the advice, but you don't like any of it.

Here's the thing. Many of us, a lot older than you, have never found the perfect fulfilling thing to do or be, yet we have been forced to do SOMETHING. You, on the other hand, have been indulged, and continue to be indulged, while you sit in one place and ponder your navel. This has not helped you, it has hurt you. Other smart kids like you with drive and ambition and student loans debt will, out of necessity, be carving out their place in the world, while you stagnate, because you can.

The advice you've gotten about getting a job is a good one. More education might be helpful if you had a goal in mind, but you don't. You might find your passion out there.

[K-Luv]

Originally Posted by mintgum84

KLuv, dont be a hater. My family dont mind bank rolling my activities, so why does it bother you?

You come across as entitled. Whether your family does not mind paying your way is not the point, it is that the way you write your posts gives the impression that you come across as deserving just because. I would take a guess and say that you only want a Ph.D. or 2nd Masters for the prestige.

[Senno]

Originally Posted by mintgum84

you know not every guy with 'rich boy' problems is a troll. i sought genuine advice here.

I suggest you take your own advice:

Originally Posted by mintgum84

I got my BA and MA and then later started a PhD. I dropped out last week. 2 degrees was enough. My debt is about $45k and I am stressing. 120k debt is stupid.


Get a job!

The problems you have with your "life of Riley" aren't that great in the overall scheme of things.

Originally Posted by mintgum84

My family dont mind bank rolling my activities.....

How does this impact your motivation to get a job or go to school for your phd?

Originally Posted by nightlysparrow

Have you ever considered that some people don't need a "career," i.e., a social identity?

One's life focus may be on personal relationships, or on service, or on one's family (of origin or created), or on creative pursuits.

One needs a source of income of course, but may get an identity through other means.

Can you apply nightlysparrows advice to your situation and find that being a freelance writer, or otherwise self-employed might be the best thing for you?

[sheena12]

You have your answer. You didn't like it. You do have a master's degree. But not the push ot passion fr a PhD.

Feel better knowing that only 25% of Americans have bachelors degrees.

So, as they say in Brooklyn....fugedddabouit. It sounds as though it's not in the cards for you.

Best of luck.

[Bettafish]

OP needs a girlfriend or better a wife.
Women push men very hard.

[kinkytoes]

Originally Posted by mintgum84

been overseas a few times. europe and asia. it always sucks. i miss my hometown and creature comforts too much.

LOL OK I lost all compassion for you. I think you should drop out and mail KT the money. Everytime I go overseas (except Paris, ugh) I have an awesome time. I think you are obviously doing something wrong. I'm dying...dying to travel again. PM me and I'll let you know where to mail the check.

[mintgum84]

Ok - got my details today. I will enrol, if I dont like it, **** it - I'll drop out after a year.

[mintgum84]

Ok - final decision. I have opted to defer my entry to next Fall. Probably wont enrol, I will opt for a 2nd masters instead. I have decided to go around collecting masters degrees.