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I have been kind of disturbed by some recent posts where people have said that they did no or possibly could not graduate from college without passing Math, most often Algebra.
That's sad to me. People have different skills and gifts and some people are more Right brained, creative, and language oriented while others are more left brained, mathematically oriented. I know that's terribly;y simplistic, but you get the idea.
Back in the mid 70s through early eighties, there were many good colleges that did not require any mathematics in order to graduate. In fact, it was looking as though General Education, or Distributional Requirements were going to be a thing of the past.
However, at most colleges and universities by the late 80s they were back in full force.
I started wondering if there were, other than Harvard, any 4 year institutions that did not require mathematics and I thought I'd share my initial findings. I still need to completely verify them though.
There are some, but not many. According to what I have read the following schools do not require one Math course in order to graduate -
Earlham
Brown
Hiram
Bard
Evergreen
Kenyon
and Smith
There are colleges that permit a Science Substitution for those with a diagnoses of Dyscauclia. Many people, including the Spell Check on my computer, have never heard of Dyscaculia.
Essentially it's dyslexia but with numbers.
While doing my research I came across some forums where people got down right mean and nasty at the thought that a person could graduate from college with out an understanding of Math. People were calling others "Morons" "Lazy" "hopeless" and worse.
It's funny, we do not ask STEM majors to write a poem or short story in order to graduate. They just need to read one, or several, and write down what they think of it. They need to know a few famous poets and short story writers and the type of literature they write. But, they do not actually need to WORK in prose or poetry. Just know about it.
After all, they are never going to actually need to write a poem, a story or a book. And I agree with that.
However Right Brained folks do not only need to know what calculus, algebra, and trigonometry are, what they are used for and be able to spout off the names of a few famous mathematicians, they need to WORK mathematical problems when in fact they are never going to need to solve an equation or what ever else those people do because I haven't done it or needed it since ...1980 something...
It's not exactly fair.
ANYWAY - Please add to my already scanty list. Really don't want to argue about who needs Math or doesn't. I would just like to compile a list of colleges that don't require math.
FYI, no math requirement for schools like Brown, Kenyon, Bard, or Smith is illusory. The reason is that those schools have competitive admissions. Just to get in, your H.S. transcript and standardized testing will show a proficiency in math that is probably sufficient for a lot of non-science or technical majors.
Mastery of alegebra or advanced alegebra is sufficent for a ton of majors out there and that is taught in high school. I graduated with a degree in accounting and have used calculus in my job maybe twice in my life. Not to solve anything, just to know enough to know I don't know this stuff and needed to bring in an actuary.
what are some jobs that require a college degree that don't require math of any kind?
Do you mean more then HS math? We're talking Colleges in this thread and there are many, many jobs (including my own) where the only math required is simple stuff I learned even before HS.
Back to the OP - Many colleges may allow you to pass out of basic math if you took a higher level math in HS.
Do you mean more then HS math? We're talking Colleges in this thread and there are many, many jobs (including my own) where the only math required is simple stuff I learned even before HS.
Back to the OP - Many colleges may allow you to pass out of basic math if you took a higher level math in HS.
There are many degrees in college where the only math needed is college algebra, which is on par with HS math.
I didn't take any math in college (Tested out with a 30 on the ACT of the math portion).
What is your job and is a college degree actually a pre-requisite or is it more of a preferred qualification.
Many people don't realize that most jobs in the US don't actually require a college degree.
FYI, no math requirement for schools like Brown, Kenyon, Bard, or Smith is illusory. The reason is that those schools have competitive admissions. Just to get in, your H.S. transcript and standardized testing will show a proficiency in math that is probably sufficient for a lot of non-science or technical majors.
Mastery of alegebra or advanced alegebra is sufficent for a ton of majors out there and that is taught in high school. I graduated with a degree in accounting and have used calculus in my job maybe twice in my life. Not to solve anything, just to know enough to know I don't know this stuff and needed to bring in an actuary.
^^^Bingo. Good luck getting into most of those schools with a mediocre Math SAT score.
It's funny, we do not ask STEM majors to write a poem or short story in order to graduate. They just need to read one, or several, and write down what they think of it. They need to know a few famous poets and short story writers and the type of literature they write. But, they do not actually need to WORK in prose or poetry. Just know about it.
After all, they are never going to actually need to write a poem, a story or a book. And I agree with that.
However Right Brained folks do not only need to know what calculus, algebra, and trigonometry are, what they are used for and be able to spout off the names of a few famous mathematicians, they need to WORK mathematical problems when in fact they are never going to need to solve an equation or what ever else those people do because I haven't done it or needed it since ...1980 something...
It's not exactly fair.
There is a full expectation that STEM types be able to spell correctly, use proper punctuation and so forth so while they may not have to write poetry they sure as heck need to have the basics down and they use those basics in every single class in college.
The schools that do require math for an english or writing major generally only require "math lite" type classes like statistics for business majors and so forth. In many of those types of classes you just need rudimentary skills as you are often allowed to bring in calculators, formula sheets and in some cases open book. I think these classes are a fairer comparison to the "english lite" classes you are describing above.
Statistics and especially a topic like interest theory are IMO very important for everyone to have a rudimentary grasp of in modern society. (I mean how many people do we hear claiming they didn't *understand* their home loan? )
Just this summer I helped a friend negotiate their car purchase. They aren't strong in math so I road shotgun. After presenting the first offer....the salesman returned with the same price only spread over 6 years instead of 5 years of payments as being "cheaper". Suffice to say, I spotted it immediately and proceeded to grind out a much better REAL deal.
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