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Are you an experienced constitutional lawyer? If not, you don't know jack about whether free speech applies here or not, That's why OP needs competent legal advice before going before the kangaroos. On what basis do you waive your constitutional rights simply by becoming a student? What does case law have to say? Did he sign anything agreeing to waive these rights? Has the University ever distributed its bylaws to its students? Even credit card providers at least show their customers the terms that they are agreeing to.
Finger Laker basically covered everything I would have to say except for one thing. University officials are not kangaroos. Kangaroos are marsupial from the family Macropodidae. You lack of education and immaturity is showing.
the OP absolutely misrepresented the university! He cursed a potential employer out and represented the university as some sort of a**hole who can't hold his temper. Why on earth would the college ever be OK with someone acting like that? You chose to go to a school, you follow their rules.
Bingo - also, depending on how the university structures their code of conduct, if he sent a resume that stated that s/he is a student at XYZ university looking for post-graduate employment and the potential employer reached out to them based in part on the reputation of that university and then the student insults that potential employer that can damage the university reputation.
Most universities want to be known as turning out qualified, professional adults who make good decisions and will represent themselves well in all their communities - academic, professional & personal.
You never know who is on the other side of the line. Even if it was through monster or some such site, if the guy you talked to had a connection at the university the next time they talk he could casually mention something like "hey, you know I love hiring your students - but I reached out to some kid who sent me an e-mail and he completely lambasted me after I expressed interest - is this what you guys are turning out now?"
When you are enrolled there you are the university and their reputation is how they make their business
Again, nobody posting here knows jack squat about free speech, unless he/she is a trained specialist in Constitutional law. A university is an especially complicated setting for determining free speech issues, since of course one of the pillars of university life is supposedly the free exchange of ideas and the right to express oneself without censorship. I am thankful that I went to a university that understood and understands this.
The use of "bad language" might well be interpreted as falling clearly within the scope of legitimate protest when voiced regarding an employment situation. Case law will tell us the answer, not a bunch of internet-armchair experts. Again, my advice to the OP, and my only advice, is to consult with a qualified layer before he is railroaded.
So many posters here seem to revel in the authoritarian world of corporations and the idea of employment at will (don't you just love firing people, really showing them how powerful you are?). This world has nothing at all to do with expression of free speech on a campus. Nothing.
Along these lines, an interesting read is Jerry Farber's old book titled "The Student as ******" (I'm sorry, but that's the book's title, and I didn't choose it), which talks about the kind of mentality exhibited in this thread by the authoritarian personalities.
Bingo - also, depending on how the university structures their code of conduct, if he sent a resume that stated that s/he is a student at XYZ university looking for post-graduate employment and the potential employer reached out to them based in part on the reputation of that university and then the student insults that potential employer that can damage the university reputation.
Most universities want to be known as turning out qualified, professional adults who make good decisions and will represent themselves well in all their communities - academic, professional & personal.
You never know who is on the other side of the line. Even if it was through monster or some such site, if the guy you talked to had a connection at the university the next time they talk he could casually mention something like "hey, you know I love hiring your students - but I reached out to some kid who sent me an e-mail and he completely lambasted me after I expressed interest - is this what you guys are turning out now?"
When you are enrolled there you are the university and their reputation is how they make their business
Exactly...I got my MBA from one of the top 15 schools in the country and they would ban me from using the career center for five years if I did as much as send my resume to a company without having them review and approve it first. If I accept an offer for a job and then back out of it, I would be banned from using the school's services as well. There is a laundry list that I have to follow if I want to keep the school's name as having given me an MBA on my resume. Universities are very, very sensitive when it comes to their reputations.
Finger Laker basically covered everything I would have to say except for one thing. University officials are not kangaroos. Kangaroos are marsupial from the family Macropodidae. You lack of education and immaturity is showing.
Seriously, are you not cognizant of the term "kangaroo court"? It's in the Merriam Webster's Collegiate Dictionary if you care to look -- according to MW, the term has been in standard English usage since 1835, and it befits university administrative procedures quite well.
In a nutshell, the schools rule is probably something like....
if the relationship between the student and that company was initiated via school related activities, then you must abide by school rules when dealing with that company at all times, whether or not you use personal email, school email, your personal cell phone, etc.
It's much like rules at corporations...that if you say something bad to a coworker at lunch time or after work, the corporate rules still apply even though you were off-the-clock.
Seriously, are you not cognizant of the term "kangaroo court"? It's in the Merriam Webster's Collegiate Dictionary if you care to look -- according to MW, the term has been in standard English usage since 1835, and it befits university administrative procedures quite well.
My goodness. Don't we take ourselves seriously! He was obviously joking with you!
I must say though that you seem to misunderstand the First Amendment. It prohibits government from interfering with your right to express yourself. It does not prevent a private organization from placing conditions on your speech, nor does it indemnify you from the consequences of your speech.
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